This is false and I would expect better of HN posters.
A group of the protestors locked the doors to a downtown apartment building with handcuffs and then attempted to set that building on fire.
Although nobody has been injured yet, there have been plenty of weapons seizures as well as incidents of protestors ramming police vehicles and/or attempting to arrest police officers.
Residents of Ottawa are scared to leave their homes for simple tasks like buying groceries because the protestors have assaulted vulnerable individuals for wearing masks.
The entire thing is a tinderbox just waiting for one unhinged protestor to make a wrong move. And even if we escape this incident peacefully, there are the toxic diesel fumes from idling trucks which have been polluting downtown Ottawa's air for the last two weeks and are likely to become trapped in the urban environment.
> A group of the protestors locked the doors to a downtown apartment building with handcuffs and then attempted to set that building on fire.
What evidence is there that that was real? An allegation was made on Twitter, but only thing I've found that digs into the details looks like a complete debunking (see links at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30336974). It's from a biased source and I'm open to any factual refutation, but I've looked for contrary reporting that digs into the details, and haven't found any. Only a lot of repetition of the original allegation.
With a couple rouge agents being your definition of obvious danger, there can never be another protest. Apply that same logic to the protests a year before and see how it goes
I feel like that is an understatement. This is not a few good old boys throwing a snowball. It's acts of arson, attempted murder, probably fits the definition of terrorism. And that's just the apartment building incident.
And of course the protests a year before were in no part better.
Every large protest fits the definition of terrorism, especially I suspect from the perspective of the politicians that the protest is trying to pressure. This is why people have been arguing that the definition is misguided and far to broad pretty much since the inception of that definition.
Oh, so the 'debunking' is not on whether or not an attempted mass murder/arson occurred, but that there is no "direct linkage" between the occupation and the crime.
What that likely means is that they don't know who the people in the video are. It seems pretty likely to me that it's related to the occupation, especially since there was a 'confrontation' earlier that day with residents of the building. It's not like buildings are burnt down in Ottawa every day.
That's great that it "seems pretty likely" to you, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Unless you have concrete information which the OPS doesn't have, I don't think speculation is very useful here.
In the country I grew up in, trying and failing to commit crimes is still a crime. The act itself is the crime, not the success of it. Unfortunately these days it seems like the better determinant of whether something is a crime is someone's political affiliation.
That's fine, you have every right to your suspicions, but unless you feel you have better information about the incident than the police that investigated it, I'm not really sure what your comment adds. The GP made the claim that protestors in Ottawa tried to burn a condo down and a quote from the police chief proves this to be false.
This is one of several accounts I use because my personal identity is tied to my main account, and accusations like the above concern me when I know there are vigilantes out there who find joy in doxing people with different political leanings than them. Rest assured I've been a member of this community since 2014, I'm not one of the dreaded "alt-right trolls" some users are so comically paranoid of.
On that note, I'm not really sure what's alt-right about repeating a quote from an investigating officer, but then again, most people who use that phrase aren't being intellectually honest anyway.
Compared to the violence, burning and looting in front of the American election this is absolutely nothing and have only lasted a few days
Those demonstrations were mostly peaceful according to those we are supposed to listen to, so obviously the current demonstrations are even more peaceful.
Edit: I'm triple vaccinated myself and recommend it for everyone else, but if we have freedom to choose that also must include freedom to do what I think is less smart.
In fact I think at this point the attempt to force people to vaccinate is scaring people away from it.
People still have their rights to do "dumb choices". I'm triple vaccinated, got omicron one month later of being vaccinated, still believe that the vaccine helped me to have it almost asymptomatically, but I'm ok with people saying that dont want to be vaccinated.
To force a division among the population is the real evil. We should demand better investments in the health sector, better salary to all workers involved on that (Doctors, nurses, teachers, policeman, etc), a covid treatment protocol that works and that's peer reviewed and supported by the scientists and eventually not the best for the pharma industry. We need transparency from Politicians in every single decision that affects the population.
>A group of the protestors locked the doors to a downtown apartment building with handcuffs and then attempted to set that building on fire.
For some reason the media failed to show the images in their stories, but the two arsonists on camera (not a group) had purple hair. With all the talk of white supremacist instigators at BLM riots, I wouldn't be surprised if this were a case of the opposite, anti-trucker instigators trying to give the protestors a bad name, and purple hair is more likely associated with the left...which ironically has taken a pro government stance on this issue.
In any case afaik no actual tie to the protests has been reported.
This is false and I would expect better of HN posters.
A group of the protestors locked the doors to a downtown apartment building with handcuffs and then attempted to set that building on fire.
Although nobody has been injured yet, there have been plenty of weapons seizures as well as incidents of protestors ramming police vehicles and/or attempting to arrest police officers.
Residents of Ottawa are scared to leave their homes for simple tasks like buying groceries because the protestors have assaulted vulnerable individuals for wearing masks.
The entire thing is a tinderbox just waiting for one unhinged protestor to make a wrong move. And even if we escape this incident peacefully, there are the toxic diesel fumes from idling trucks which have been polluting downtown Ottawa's air for the last two weeks and are likely to become trapped in the urban environment.