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Believe this is bad legal advice. They would only need to prove you destroyed information with intent to impede an investigation/case. They would not need to prove something convicting or weighing was destroyed.

What you seem to be referring to would be obstruction, whereas the entire parent thread was specifically discussing destruction of evidence. Fair to point out that there are other offenses that could be charged, but misleading to imply it’s the same thing.

No, I am referring to destruction of evidence. It is (very generally) a subset of legal obstruction.

I wonder what the threshold is?

E.x. if one had a "dead man's switch" phone that required a passkey every x minutes, and each time you did so it set the next threshold...


> They would only need to prove you destroyed information with intent to impede an investigation/case

Which requires them to prove they know that device likely contains relevant information. Just being party to a court case doesn't mean you're forbidden from deleting anything ever again... like I said there are very specific rules for evidence, and one cannot begin to claim something relevant is destroyed if you can't even show that you had any idea what might have been destroyed in the first place.


It mostly hinges on your intent, i.e. what they can argue is your understanding of the information you destroyed, not theirs. It unfortunately can be far-reaching, including into the past.

You're right that in normal circumstances you can routinely delete records for data hygiene, to save money, as part of a phone repair, and so on, unless you've been court ordered otherwise.


They stick with you. I remember our first family computer well (an Acer 486 with 40MB drive and 32MB RAM.)

Same for my first computer I built myself out of a TigerDirect order. Made a few mistakes there (K6 generation.)

Having these computers was such a change in our lives that they should be somewhat indelible memories.


>an Acer 486 with 40MB drive and 32MB RAM.

32MB ram <-- no way. 4 and 8MB were the standard (8MB being grand), you could find 16MB on some Pentiums. So 40MB drive and 32MB RAM is an exceptionally unlikely combo.

32MB become norm around Pentium MMX and K6(-2).


Haha, I wondered if someone would complain about 32MB. We had the board maxed out. My grandfather’s computer before ours.

A few months after taking possession, I upgraded the disk to a luxurious 400MB.


The classic NAND-me-down. My first personal computer was a "broken" 486 system I got for $25 at a yard sale. All it needed was a hard drive.

We had a 386 DX with 32MB of RAM. I don’t think it was that uncommon. DOOM still didn’t run super smoothly, though.

Nah, as the other poster said 4 or 8 MB was what was common on 486 machines. Even less on 386. Most 386 motherboards didn't even support more than 16MB.

It could have been bought old and upgraded. Not everyone had the luxury of a brand new first computer.

Possibly, but even mother boards supporting 32MB would be rare. Perhaps on "DX3"?

As for a new computer and price - it was like $1000 to get AMD 486DX2-80 with 4MB RAM in '95...


So this depends if it was a 72 pin DIMM board. I don't think you could get there (easily?) on a 30 pin board, but 72 may have had native support for 64 out of the box.

I upgraded a ~1992 Dell 486 DX2 to 36MB (original 4MB + 32MB...or was it a pair of 16MB sticks? hard to remember) around 1997 or so.

Yeah, IIRC my first computer, or at least the first one I really maintained, was a Pentium 2 with 32MB of ram and a 2gb hard drive. Good ole gateway pcs.

The first first computer I had was an old IBM PC.


TigerDirect? Wow. How did I forget the first place I used and instantly maxxed a credit card? I would look through that catalog right now if I had it.


These models do well changing brownfield applications that have tests because the constraints on a successful implementation are tight. Their solutions can be automatically augmented by research and documentation.

I don't exactly disagree with this but I have seen models simply deleting the tests, or updating the tests to pass and declaring the failures were "unrelated to my changes", so it helpfully fixed them

I’ve had to deal with this a handful of times. You just have to make it restore the test, or keep trying to pass a suite of explicit red-green method tests it wrote earlier.

Yes. You have to treat the model like an eager yet incompetent worker, i.e. don't go full yolo mode and review everything they do.

That is unusual. I’ve encountered a couple people like this. They also refuse get-togethers in people’s homes and potlucks. One said he would be willing to come to a potluck if he could inspect everyone’s kitchens first; he wasn’t joking! It’s a blend of germaphobia and social distrust, I suppose.

That said, if someone was grieving and they couldn’t handle more than receiving delivered takeout, I’d happily send it, just as I’d accommodate another dietary preference when preparing a real meal.


I think it comes from some bad experiences at church potlucks and school bake sales when I was a kid. Combine that with watching people cook who taste with the stirring spoon and then stick it back in the pot and I’d rather not eat your homemade goods.

I also had some bad experiences eating at my grandmothers (she was a terrible cook). I think her experiences in the Great Depression meant no food would go to waste. I ate so many years-past expiration foods when I was a kid. Have you ever had really intense food poisoning? Ugh…


I understand. Our upbringing and formative experiences make for powerful programming. My favorite family recipe is my brother's least favorite because he ate it the day he got an intense stomach bug when he was in grade school. Even though he's more objective about food now, he still finds the idea of me liking it revolting. :)

The person needs to never see a commercial kitchen from the inside, lest they starve

One of my neighbors has seen the inside of commercial kitchens, they simply never eat out. Everything is home cooked.

Agape could be discussed as a philosophy between disagreeing figures like King and Carmichael. Today, fewer people have encountered the idea so they can’t choose it as a philosophy.

Without agape, political activism is more zero-sum and utilitarian. Non-violence becomes a gambit that is only appealing as long as it is making obvious gains against the current winners, and there is little motivation to remain nonviolent after becoming winners.


I've spent a lot of time with people who seem themselves operating within ML Kings lineage and have their lives committed to this kind of nonviolence work, and they defintely operate from within the an "agape mindset", even though they wouldn't frame it like that.

in my understanding some people use 'non-violence' to describe the more utilitarian version, and 'noniovlence' for that which exits the entire 'domination paradigm'


Interesting; you observe a drawn distinction between the hyphenated and non-hyphenated spelling?

I don't know if I like the marketing. A deeply discounted product obviously has some appeal, but it's at odds with the "chat that just works" messaging that suggests an advantage in reliability or UI and that will realistically take time to mature enough to be at parity, let alone ahead.

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I wasn't defining as feature parity and didn't think you implied that anywhere.

If you've come up with a way to perform as well as Slack at the basic multi-client message service at launch, that's great. "that doesn't suck"/"that just works" reads to me like more the claims of a low cost MVP that hasn't solved those issues yet. (Probably because they're overused.)

Only speaking to your marketing and not intending to impugn your team credentials/experience.


The main feature you seem to be interested in is the fact that you’ve saved yourself 100x infrastructure costs on your back end and that the app performs well. But that doesn’t benefit end users at all, that isn’t a solution to business pain.

That ability to integrate is the core of Slack’s identity. That’s the main reason to use Slack instead of its predecessors. Slack competitors like Teams, Zulip, and Mattermost all offer easy ability to integrate with anything that can make a web request.

You site’s marketing copy dunks on Huddles but I think it’s the other essential functionality to include in a chat application. You’re saying I can’t have a video/screen sharing call on your application when I can do that for free with Discord?

IMO this package you’re advertising is kind of a contradiction and/or a no-man’s land.

It’s like you’re charging $20 for Notepad.exe when the Microsoft Office suite is $100, and then your selling point is that it’s fast and lightweight. But then your customers could just get Notepad++ for free elsewhere.

I’m concerned for you as far as having a buyer persona or ideal customer profile.

People who buy your product for its low price have to supplement lost features by paying for other stuff.

People who don’t need all the features of Slack could just use something free like Signal, WhatsApp, Matrix, Discord, etc, and they might actually GAIN some features in comparison.

People who buy your product to avoid bloat arguably don’t really avoid it because they have to constantly leave your app and use other stuff to supplement it.


Change the subdomain to lite for a more text-oriented experience. https://lite.cnn.com/2026/01/18/business/crafting-soars-ai-a...

There might be a browser plugin to automatically do this, like exist with old.reddit.com.


The last major jquery app I wrote ended up using a similar reactive pattern. I had to shoehorn a custom search engine frontend into a Joomla CMS where I wasn’t allowed to change much. Good times!

He keeps getting older, but the frontier models stay the same age.


I don’t think National Guard around polling places would be good for turnout. Voting in advance, from home, is a solution already in place for most.


"Oops, sorry, your postal votes were kept in this warehouse over there. Yeah, the one that went on fire.". There's even a documentary about it called "Succession".


Yes, I hope things similar to this don't happen in this years midterms, like they did in 2020.


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