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Would this exceptional modern society of ours you speak of just happen to be the one founded on the genocide of Native American tribes?

that’s not who we are any more

200 years ago might as well be 20,000 to the modern mind


“The goal is to become HBO faster than HBO can become us.” - Ted Sarandos in 2013

Seems Netflix won that race.


Thing is that Netflix didn't really succeed at that goal. HBO was and still is the gold standard for premium cable content. Netflix instead decided to go for the bottom 70% of the market, and the quality of their shows reflects that.

In fact the very reason for this purchase is that they desperately need help on the creative side.

Netflix is what it is today because all the studios trying to compete with their tech was an even bigger disaster than Netflix competing on content.


I don't think the Netflix vs HBO comparison is fair.

HBO was always one channel in a home. They produced a limited amount of high-quality content. You watch it a few times a week and network TV reality shows or whatever other trash the rest of the week.

Netflix wanted/wants to be the only channel in cord-cutting and cord-never homes. When that's your goal you have to produce mostly crap and some good stuff.


> and some good stuff

which is mostly inexistent on Netflix


That's a matter of opinion. Other people all over this thread have shared what they think are good Netflix shows and movies.

It's the opinion of Netflix execs, who have expressed envy over how much money HBO is still making off of decades old IP. Not a lot of Netflix content has legs like that, but I suppose that's about to change with the WB acquisition.

> how much money HBO is still making off of decades old IP

I'd say Disney is the uncontested king of making money off old work. If HBO was that good they wouldn't have been scooped up so easily.

Netflix execs may be envious of the enduring cultural cachet of shows like The Sopranos or The Wire. That's completely different from making real money.


I'm not sure Netflix execs spend much time worrying about cultural cachet like that. They care about popularity and virality but I think they'd be 100% contented to make 100 reality shows like the one I affectionately dubbed "Sluts Island" that each make them $10 million than make one Sopranos-type show that makes them $500 million and 57 Emmys.

I'm not sure how you quantify "premium cable content" but Netflix has certainly made great strides in that market.

After that complete fumble of HBO becoming "Max" they were at their last legs

The "Max" fiasco was pretty much the strangest branding mistake ever. Not just an obvious mistake but it was honestly kind of a mystery that anyone would even be tempted to do that.

Remember when Netflix almost split its brand with "Quickster"? It was the dying DVD by mail service, but the whole debacle did nothing but confuse people.

True, although Netflix knew the DVD business had no permanent future anyway, so they really didn't care. If they'd picked a less silly name like "DVDflix" or something, it wouldn't have become a viral story, but either way it wouldn't have changed NFLX's fortunes.

"HBO or Cinemax... um, I wonder which name I should keep."

Why would anyone want to be old HBO? Writing good scripts is hard and not rewarded.

The rewards aren’t necessarily monetary.

I'd wager that those non-monetary rewards are not what drive any decisions in the Netflix C-suite.

fair. i guess i was thinking more about the creative types.

As I was reading the announcement, that quote popped into my head. I came here to say exactly that.

Funny that you mention Yahoo, as in my mind they're the perfect example of what the poster above you noted: people quickly switched to Google once a better alternative to Yahoo appeared.

And where do you think the idea the Canadian government is waging war against its own population will come from?

The problem is that most people think of these scenarios as something that happens overnight, when in reality consent is manufactured over time. There's a reason you don't microwave a frog.


I'm not talking about any psy-op. I'm talking about the actual scenario.


That's what Putin thought as well.


Well, putins military is a little bit different than the american military industrial complex.


The average cost of a home in Toronto is $1.2M CAD. The only home young able-bodied Canadians are defending is their landlord's.


Thank you for this perspective. It's not something I considered yet it deeply resonated with me.


Ted Chiang is often regarded as the best sci-fi author of our times.


Wouldn’t say best but he is certainly world class for his short stories. While the film “Arrival” was excellent, it was based on his short story “Story of your life” which was even better.


"The Story Of Your Life" is a real mind-bender.


The Ted Sturgeon of our era.


Indulgence might be the most appropriate term.


The US Constitution wasn't written with the wellbeing of random ordinary citizens in mind. You could argue it was the exact opposite in fact.


More importantly it was written under the assumption that political elites would understand and act against the risk of electing a broken demagogue.

But alas, the modern GOP’s cravenness beggars belief.


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