> No one ever forced any company to work with China.
"Forced" is a strong word here, but company's do need to compete or die. If your competitors are manufacturing in China and selling widgets at a price less than what an American factory can produce them for, what choices do they realistically have?
To expect merchants to get together and act according to some greater good is a pipe dream. Government should have stepped in and prevented the offshoring of American industry through policy
Yes, such are capitalism’s incentives, I’m afraid.
But this could have been managed. FDR managed it, other governments somewhat managed it with policy in times of war, like WW2.
The US had the technology edge for DECADES. More industrialization would lead to more inovation and more jobs. They could invest in factories and the like, and even marketing, since “american made” has always been a fine talking point for companies. But it was cheaper in the short term to ship it to China and just not care about the future.
The governments didn’t care, the companies (owners, shareholders) certainly didn’t care, and as a result, decades later, they’re stuck with fascism. Which I don’t think they care about either.
If services offered a paid version that guaranteed privacy, such that I stay anonymous and only data points that are strictly necessary to provide the service are persisted in the company's servers, I would happily pay.
And I mean guaranteed in a way that I would have legal recourse against the company if they go back on their word or screw up
Baiting people with "no cost" services, and then using their data in ways that people might not agree with, hiding behind 10 subpages to click through or a huge "how we protect your data (NOT)" text is no solution though.
What would be a solution, but one that the companies don't want, is to offer a service either as a paid service or truly at no cost which includes no privacy cost. But they are afraid of doing that, because they fear that then they can't hitch the ride on data taken from users, who are not informed and who only clicked some accept button, because the business kept nagging them about it, instead of accepting a "no".
I have to admit though, that Google did better than most other big techs, as they do provide a consent dialog, where rejecting is as easy as accepting. See for example YouTube. And not sure about Google search, since I don't use it these days. However, I did not research (and that's how one would have to call it), whether rejecting is truly adhered to, or they sneak in not actually needed things as "functional cookies" or something.
However, lets not have any illusions here. If the EU didn't demand things to improve and didn't impose fines, big tech would have done exactly nothing of the sort.
What specific legal recourse beyond what exists? You can already sue for breach of contract if a company violates their privacy policy. The real problems are: (1) detecting violations in the first place, and (2) proving/quantifying damages. A 'guarantee' doesn't solve either.
Of course you could also argue that human intention comes from largely deterministic processes emerging from the brain. That may eventually perhaps lead to all figures of speech involving things like intentionality meaningless.
This type of response is just stochastic parrotry, rather than displaying evidence of actual <whatever cognitive trait we're overconfidently insisting LLMs don't have>.
Yet more evidence that LLMs are more similar to humans than we give them credit for.
Never stops fascinating me how folks are arguing this kind of thing. Why make up an explanation for why this obvious mistake is actually some kind of elaborate 4D chess sarcastic "intention"? It's a simple machine, its network just didn't support making up a new Toy Story character. That's it! Simple as that! Occam's Razor anybody?
Or yes, maybe the regex I wrote the other day which also had a bug that missed replacing certain parts also had an "intention". It just wanted to demonstrate how fallible I am as a human, so it played this elaborate prank on me. /s
...Because Occam's razor is not assuming it's a "mistake"?
There's a thread full of people saying how clever humorous they find almost every headline.
The real 4D chess is dogmatically assuming it is not assuming it managed to by pure accident succeed in that dozens of separate times, because your dogma refuses to incorporate evidence to the contrary.
Occam's razor is that this system which no one actually understands the emergent capabilities of, and is convincing so many people it has intention... has intention.
There are still a lot of Toy Story characters to come by, and it doesn't seem the franchise is about to end, as long as they keep a reasonable release cycle, Debian is safe ;)
I'm kind of curious how many there are left and how long they'd last. Also, how far are they already picked and what would be the absolute last resort choices.
Someone must have done the math. (Actual plans would actually probably be up somewhere as well, given Debian orgs nature.)
I exclusively use the autocomplete in cursor. I hate reviewing huge chunks of llm code at one time. With the autocomplete, I’m in full control of the larger design and am able to quickly review each piece of llm code. Very often it generates what I was going to type myself.
Anything that involves math or complicated conditions I take extra time on.
I feel I’m getting code written 2 to 3 times faster this way while maintaining high quality and confidence
This is my preferred way as well. And when you think about it, it makes sense. With advanced autocomplete you are:
1. Keeping the context very small
2. Keeping the scope of the output very small
With the added benefit of keeping you in the flow state (and in my experience making it more enjoyable).
To anyone that even hates LLMs give autocomplete a shot (with a keying to toggle it if it annoys you, sometimes it’s awful). It’s really no different than typing it manually wrt quality etc, so the speed up isn’t huge, but it feels a lot nicer.
Maybe it subjectively feels like 2-3x faster but in studies that measure it we tend to see smaller improvements like in the range of 20-30% faster. It could be that you are an outlier, of course.
2-3x faster on getting the code written. Fully completing a coding task maybe only 20-30% faster, if we count chasing down requirements, reviews, waiting for CI to pass so I can merge etc.
Before LLMs I used whatever autocomplete tech came with VSCode and the plugins I used. Now with Cursor a lot of what the autocomplete did is replaced with LLM output, at much greater cost. Counting this in the "LLM generated" statistic is misleading at best, and I'm sure it's being counted
I don't think that is what the original commenter was getting at. In your case, the company is actively choosing to make changes. Whether its for a good reason, or leads to a good outcome, is beside the point.
LLMs being inherently non-deterministic means using this technology as the foundation of your UI will mean your UI is also non-deterministic. The changes that stem from that are NOT from any active participation of the authors/providers.
This opens a can of worms where there will always be a potential for the LLM to spit out extremely undesirable changes without anyone knowing. Maybe your bank app one day doesn't let you access your money. This is a danger inherent and fundamental to LLMs.
Right I get tha. The point I’m making is that from a users perspective it’s functionally very similar. A non deterministic llm or a non deterministic company full of designers and engineers.
Bank tellers are deterministic though. They have a set protocol for each cases and escalate unknown cases to a more deterministic point of contact.
It will be difficult to incorporate relative access or restrictions to features with respect to users current/known state or actions. Might as well write the entire web app at that point.
I think the bank teller's systems and processes are deterministic, but the teller itself is not. They could even rob the bank, if they wanted to. They could shoot the customers. They don't, generally, but they can.
I think, if we can efficiently capture a way to "make" LLMs conform to a set of processes, you can cut out the app and just let the LLM do it. I don't think this makes any sense for maybe the next decade, but perhaps at some point it will. And, in such time, software engineering will no longer exist.
I think this is the core of the issue for the Democra)ts. Conservative groups are focused on figuring out what actions are effective in gaining power and executing on that. They don't shy away from unethical methods like spreading misinformation and gerrymandering. They've understood this for a very long time and have been planting seeds for decades, such as taking over AM radio to entrench a conservative mindset in rural populations.
From my observations the liberal and progressive groups seem to take on strategies where they claim the moral high ground and treat anyone not following their way of thinking as opponents and not as potential allies/converts. So even in cases where they are technically or morally "correct" in their stance, they aren't effective in bringing outsiders to their side. One example was the "recognize your (white) privilege" thing. While it was arguably based on sound ideas, proclaiming an entire demographic is receiving more than they earn is never going to bring people over to your side.
I don't have much confidence that the Democrats will be able to turn things around in short order. The Democratic leadership seem stuck in their ways with no long term vision
In this example aren’t the two engines equally capable, with one being held back artificially?
I think what the other commenter is getting at, is that if the manufacturer puts a 300hp engine in a car but limits it to 250hp, they still need to charge enough to make a profit. If the manufacturer produced a cheaper 250hp engine for the 250hp car, they could probably charge less for the same profit.
So it’s a double loss for the consumer of the 250hp car. They pay a higher cost and are artificially kept from the full performance of what they bought
Understood your thinking and we don't know if that is the case or not, I can see a few different ways they could have handled it:
1-As you stated, full extra cost is paid by the buyer regardless of opting for extra capability, and that cost is non-trivial
2-Same as #1 but the cost is trivial due to some internal mfg conditions we are unaware of
3-Extra cost is non-trivial and is prorated across all units based on the expected rate of purchasing the extra capability and the overall revenue vs costs. So in this case it's a partial increase.
3-Extra cost is non-trivial but the buyer does not pay more than if they had used the less powerful engine, the buyers of extra capability are expected to fully fund the cost increase to the entire group of vehicles in the program. This could still be competitive with the market for the extra capability because people can pick and choose when they want to spend the money, that flexibility has value.
We don't really know how they handled the situation but I would be surprised if it was #1 because it would make the car less competitive for buyers that don't want the extra capability.
In my opinion, a very generic question like that deserves a very generic answer, with a follow-up asking if that is what they had in mind.
"An interface is roughly how a system is designed to be interacted with. A web page can be an interface with your bank if they have online banking. An API can be an interface for a back-end service to provide to other back-end services. Did you have anything specific in mind?"
Yup. I have been rejected once because I discussed a variety of options to harden a system instead of blurting out "VPN" as they wanted. They told me that after I discussed some trade offs in security for a little bit.
Young in my career I bombed a five person panel interview once with a bunch of questions like this.
One of them I remember being especially unfair - "if one of our systems connections goes down, how would you troubleshoot it"? I had what I thought was a great answer, reviewing logs, looking for errors, verifying the server or system had internet access, etc... They informed me that the correct answer was checking that the ethernet cable was plugged in...
Along with feeling completely defeated after the interview (since I really needed a job at the time), I felt like it was an extremely loaded question and my answer should have gotten a +1, especially since my answer discussed internet access. I did dodge a bullet though. That startup failed 15 months after my interview.
"Forced" is a strong word here, but company's do need to compete or die. If your competitors are manufacturing in China and selling widgets at a price less than what an American factory can produce them for, what choices do they realistically have?
To expect merchants to get together and act according to some greater good is a pipe dream. Government should have stepped in and prevented the offshoring of American industry through policy
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