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I was pleasantly surprised to see my former CS professor Brian Harvey at 0:18. What a cool dude!


You really can’t win with these types…

If Chinese phd students stay and work, they’ll complain about them “stealing American tech jobs”. If they leave, then they’re “parasitizing” the tech industry.

Though I think their real solution is to probably ban all Chinese students / tech workers. And fortunately for them, that likelihood is at its highest under the current administration.


Who are “these types”? Has parent poster made these claims?

Or are you attacking some imaginary villain?


> Who are “these types

Jingoistic types

> Has parent poster made these claims?

Please read the post again. He said that Chinese people who worked/studied here and then returned to China are “parasitic”.

> imaginary villain

These sentiments are real and frequently expressed here on HN. Again, they should write to their representative to ban Chinese people from our schools or tech firms if he feels that is in the best interest of the U.S. But it is wrong to refer to these people as parasites for simply taking advantage of the opportunities available to them, provided by willing U.S employers. They presumably contribute to their companies and pay taxes, so they are not parasites.


Thank you for the reply.


> What you just described (so vividly) is meaning

In line with Victor Frankl’s book “Man’s Search for Meaning”, which explores (among other things) why some Holocaust survivors thrived and some didn’t. Frankl himself was a survivor.


They are based in the US (CA I believe).

I think it’s certain hourly-wage jobs that have can hour limits. (ie. physically demanding jobs in hot weather conditions require periodic water breaks, in addition to hour limits)

In other hourly-wage jobs, you can still work over 40 hours but the worker is entitled to over-time pay. My mom worked at the US Post Office and during the holiday seasons she would sometimes work 12 hours a days, but all hours above 8 were paid at twice the hourly rate. Also, note that signing up for overtime was voluntary.

Software engineers, on the other hand, are salaried. Similar to lawyers, they sometimes have grueling hours (ie sleep in the office) but it’s not illegal, afaik.


> only 48 testers/flippers

I assumed they did these coin flips were done using a machine. But I guess they wanted to test if human flippers because they wanted to make claims about the human coin flip phenomenon.


If you programmed a machine to flip a coin in the same exact way every time, would you not expect the coin to land the same way every single time? If you program some randomness into the machine to simulate human flipping, then you'd simply move scrutiny from the coin to the machine's programming.

I think the result could be better described as "humans tend to flip fair coins to land on the side they started".


One would expect chaos effects to come into play.


One might, but that would be wrong.


But if you get someone to flip a coin thousands of times for a boring reason, I would lose confidence that they are flipping in the same way a normal human would.


Since we're sharing anecdotes here.

Around 2012, I attended the very first coding bootcamp in SF. We had a demo day and a (white) recruiter from a local start-up came and literally only talked to every one of the white students (in a class that was half white) but none of the non-white students. Not a single one. When walking by a table with a non-white student, he would just said "excuse me" and squeezed pass. I looked up the company's website later and it was a 50-ish person start-up that was all white males, except 1 Asian girl who was a PM.

Now, I'm sure the people at this start-up would probably not think of themselves as "racist" (especially in liberal SF) even though this recruiter behaved in a racially exclusive way. But it really goes to show how subconscious these instincts are. This is why it's unfair to single out Indians/Chinese in this case as the only ones who have an in-group bias; every group has an in-group bias if we're really being honest here.

Having said that, the best tech teams I've worked in have been very diverse. They were high performant, but also had a great deal of trust in each other. I think it's because every one knows every one else is a high performer and trust each other's judgment. Nobody is just here because they "just gel with the vibes" and playing group-politics, which sometimes falls on racial lines.


I thought caste was unrelated to skin color. Is this not true?


It depends, some "higher" caste people have light skin compared to others.


> I think that in America, political beliefs and violence are more closely entwined than in other parts of the world. I’d be a bit worried about getting punched if I got too deep into politics with someone who disagreed with me

Jamie, pull up that clip of Taiwanese legislators getting into a fist fight in Congress.


> white restaurants

LMAO! What are white restaurants?


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