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Someone send it to Humane Ai Pin :D


Hi, thanks!

Not sure what to think about your comment about too much SEO. We need to get customers, we need to pay the bills. We literally took the idea from Zapier and other websites (YC company, that's one of their hero story how they grew). If you google for I want to move from X to Y, well then you have a dedicated landing page. What's so wrong about it? Some people move from Yandex to Amazon, some other would prefer to have a page of how to move to Tidal.

Yes, it's automated because we are team of 3 developers for now and we are automating whatever we can.

I do not like this part of website too much, but I do not like dark SEO even more, so hiding this links for people and making it visible to Google is worse.

What would you prefer we do in this case to make it better?


I broadly agree - but maybe the GP's issue was how this looks on a page - with all the generated links. Maybe if you had the pages, but the list of links was less intrusive it might be better. But granted, the SEO for these generated pages might be affected by the way you link to them.


I’d keep it as is. It’s not scammy, it’s optimizing based on what potential users would search for.


Yes that may be. The main case is still for me: is this an Ad for our app or is this just normal external service webview based login?

That’s the first time this is an issue after 4 years being on the Play Store and immediately they remove the whole app.


>or is this just normal external service webview based login?

is the tagline part of the webview, or is it content controlled by you, and the webview only opens when you tap the button? if it's the former then I'd agree it's not an ad, although I can still understand why it might look like an ad to a reviewer who doesn't understand the nuances.


It’s the former. I hate ads in general and I would rather offer service for free (like we do with GetPassbook) than have crappy ads in the app.


Yes, we need to keep the app updated all the time to keep with the always changing APIs.

We are not looking into going to different space right now as it's never as easy as replacing some core components, but thanks for the idea :)


You can even do a Spotify "Liked Songs" to the same account of Spotify as playlist, and then you can finally share the Liked Songs as a playlist to your friends :)

If this sounds interesting feel free to ping me at twitter @bartosz


Hi, founder of FreeYourMusic here. It will still work, Spotify tried to block us just the same two years ago. We then switched to different method of integration to not be legally bound via SDK agreements.

We are still operational and have Spotify export working. If they won't let you through doors, we get in via window. ️

We do not expect any platforms to be limited on FYM.FM in near future.


I am in the middle of process of selling FreeYourMusic.com ( >20k$ month net revenue, almost no costs ) right now :) b (at) hern (dot) as


We had been using different providers but sticked with Paddle. It's not more expensive if you think about benefits you get.

1) We started with Braintree. We had to implement their SDK, and then we were charging PayPal and Credit Cards. Each transaction had to be accounted by us, we had to specify how much VAT. In Europe it's tricky because you have to charge VAT-MOSS based on which country customer is from (eg. 20% for UK, 23% for Poland). So accounting was a nightmare. 2) Then we switched to Stripe (new sdk to implement) and PayPal separatelly (another integration to support). Same crap as with Braintree. We only switched because Braintree kicked us out. A lot of developer work wasted to support paypal separatelly etc. Even more work for fixing PayPal's constant CSV changes and API changes to integrate with accounting. Then there was still some issue which I had to manually fix in accounting. Again: nightmare.

3) Then comes our saviour Paddle. One SDK to implement (so like implementing only Stripe) but you get all different features, like nationalized prices, one big invoice at the end of the month with VAT calculated by them, abandon baskets recovery etc and much more.

5% but hours saved in productivity and accouning. It was and still is worth it and I don't want to ever switch back.

Thanks to Paddle for keeping my mind sane :)

PS. If anyone is interested we use it at FreeYourMusic.com


For similar reasons, I use Paddle to process subscription payments for a paid Chrome extension (https://www.checkbot.io/).

Fastspring and Gumroad deal with VAT as well. Fastspring is more expensive than Paddle but has more features. Gumroad is cheaper than Paddle but doesn't integrate well with SaaS products last time I checked.

Doing VAT processing yourself sounds like a nightmare.


It is ironic that EU entrepreneur have to use US intermediaries to overcome EU's VATMESS.


Ohh, I actually bought your app last year sometime. :) That's kinda made me use Paddle in the past. :D


We (FreeYourMusic.com) support both Apple Music and Google Music, so you can easily migrate ;)

Apple Music has official SDK for both web and mobile. (even on Android)

Google Play Music is same case now as Spotify. We mimic their web API, but it's far from perfect as you need to use "app password" for login.


It's was always ok to use their SDK and make money as long as you did not make money from music listening.

We make money from user playlists data (which we believe should belong to user) and I don't treat our usecase as integrating with others, as we do it in 3 steps: download from Spotify, then import to somewhere else.

It was all fine for 2 year, but after IPO they changed their TOS for Developers.

There was either making our service less attractive or removing Spotify all together, so we had no choice. Don't really care about stock price ;), just want to keep the project going and allow others to be able to migrate between different services.

I like that with email on your own domain you can easily switch providers (which I recently did with google to protonmail). But there are many other solutions which are not so easy to switch which halts competition.


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