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what is the math you're doing, exactly?

also, I don't think a dozen devs is enough to support a competitive browser

anyway, companies are far(!) from just devs


this is sarcasm, right?


seems like no one else got that. tough crowd.

That's not what they're talking about here, though, is it? They have premium offerings as well, which LLMs are causing people to not buy.

Put another way: Adam said traffic to their docs was down 40% and revenue was down 80%. I don't think it's purely traffic-driven revenue.


are you on android or iOS?


I'm on iOS.


I'm a kagi fan, but my family members who I've had try orion ran into quite a few issues. Might be worth trying one of these with regular safari:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ublock-origin-lite/id674534269...

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wipr-2/id1662217862

on android I use firefox with the regular ublock origin extension


and if you're a chrome user on desktop (I use ff), helium might be worth a try

https://helium.computer

full disclosure: one of the devs is a friend of mine

if for some reason you want to use webkit on desktop (linux), there's always gnome web, but in my experience it can't handle anything beyond very basic browsing (for example, a youtube video will cause it to crash)


please just try TLS


last I checked, firefox doesn't download AI models unless you try to use a (clearly-labeled) feature that requires them. you can also manage/uninstall them at about:addons

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/on-device-models

totally uncharitable interpretation of the quote linked here aside, how is providing an interface for using fully local models not user first software?


If the users don't want the feature, then pushing it on them is not user first. It's that simple.


That's an impossible bar to clear though. Because there are ALWAYS features that some users doesn't want.


I didn't read it that way. I read it as him acknowledging that would be a poor choice and therefore that mozilla won't do it.


Right, saying that something which is completely against the company's fundamental principles "feels off mission" gives us a very secure feeling of this CEO.


unlikely, at least not during this generation. even putting aside the current admin, the US has (to put it extremely lightly) long failed to police its own and certain "allies'" behavior, which undermines the concept altogether.

at this point, there are unfortunately no "good guys" at the state level.


generations


all of the content on your site is clearly LLM-generated


This is an ad-hominem attack, not cool.


not mine, they started using ai images a lot though lately but check the old articles.


the content itself is also LLM-generated. go ahead, just say what you mean.


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