Hey there. I didn’t submit this post but I am the author of the app. I didn’t know about Headlamp when I started working on Luxury Yacht. I only discovered it a few weeks ago. Headlamp is great, and of course having CNCF’s backing means a lot.
I’m not trying to sell Luxury Yacht. It’s free to use. I’m not going to try to convince anyone to choose it over Headlamp, or any other tool. Of course I’m flattered if people like what I built, but that’s the extent of my investment.
I like Luxury Yacht better than Headlamp, but of course I do, because I built it to work exactly the way I want it to.
I think LY has a great user interface, and I didn't mean to dismiss your amazing work! That's what makes open source great.
I think Headlamp is less know but now that it's part of Kubernetes SIG UI and the kubernetes dashboard is essentially being deprecated, you'll see a lot more headlamp usage in the future imho and I think headlamp can benefit from more awareness and getting more folks involved too!
The author must have taken inspiration from Orbstack which is itself a MacOS app for managing containers, VMs and a local Kube cluster. The first image in the README shows they've selected the cluster Orbstack provisions as the one being managed.
I use orbstack but I wouldn’t say it was any inspiration for Luxury Yacht. I was inspired by https://infra.app which was my favorite app for managing k8s resources before it got abandoned.
Oh hey, no worries! I didn't take your post in a bad way. Headlamp is a great project and I honestly can't believe I hadn't heard about it until very recently. I'm glad you're spreading the word about it.
I've tried to make Headlamp work with GKE/GDC clusters multiple times on macOS but I simply cannot get it working correctly w/gke-gcloud-auth-plugin. Worked out of the box with Luxury Yacht. I do also like the speed of Luxury Yacht!
I never really felt great about Lens. The interface and workflow just never resonated with me. No shade to the crew behind Lens, it’s purely subjective opinion, and I’m sure a lot of people would say I’m wrong.
I like Headlamp. It’s much closer to how I think these kinds of apps should work. Prior to starting work on Luxury Yacht, my favorite app in this category was https://infra.app/ but unfortunately that has seemingly been abandoned.
As far as how they compare… I think they’re all pretty comparable in terms of features. It’s just a question of finding the one that has the UI you like.
I did try to build some stuff into Luxury Yacht that I haven’t seen in other apps, though. There’s an object diff panel, where you can compare two objects (even in different clusters) and it will diff the YAML. I also have a json log parser, that will render json logs as a table so it’s much easier to read. Just small things like that.
Kubernetes Ops person here who opens HeadLamp at start of the day and leaves it open. Lens is much better than HeadLamp IMO but if you are cost sensitive, HeadLamp can probably get you 95% there.
No one organization in the world funds the LF in a way that is more than 1% of the total LF revenue... it has nearly ~2000 members across the world. You can usually get some of this from the LF Annual Report: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/resources/publications/linux...
CNCF has probably 20x the funding of the ASF and is a different organization that spends millions of dollars on security audits, events and more, you can read about it in our annual report: https://www.cncf.io/reports/cncf-annual-report-2023/
I hope that OpenFeature changes the feature flagging space the same way that OpenTelemetry impacted the o11y space, we are overdue for this (in my biased opinion)
Apache isn't a silver bullet... there are plenty of Apache projects where the individuals are compromised mostly from one company and hide behind the veneer of the ASF... where they are working on the projects per their employment. Gerrymandering is definitely possible and has happened in the past, that's why you have to look at governance and ownership of the marks/build systems etc: https://www.aniszczyk.org/2019/10/08/open-source-gerrymander...
I actually prefer the approach of LF, EF or CNCF where it's transparent where folks work for and your affiliation is disclosed upfront. In the CNCF for example, we separate out technical project decisions (maintainers) from funding decisions (members). That is healthier than blending it all in one at the ASF imho and having no idea where person is working for imho.
Agreed. Red Hat isn't perfect, but when I worked there we had a few products that were CNCF under my umbrella, including a few incubator projects. Even though we had several developers working full or part time on those projects, it was always something I was meaningful of, not stacking the project board Red Hat-heavy, to not make it a defacto RH project.
In some ways, it's nice to see companies move to use mostly open source infrastructure, a lot of it coming from CNCF (https://landscape.cncf.io), ASF and other organizations out there (on top of the random things on github).
At a quick glance, they seem significantly different.
https://ai-infra.fun/ contains things like OpenAI & Anthropic under the LLM section.
I don't see that on https://landscape.lfai.foundation/.
Also, I don't see a space for Code or IDE tooling the Linux Foundation page.
ai-infra.fun contains TabNine and Tabby.
Would things like TabNine and Tabby make sense on the Linux Foundation one? Would love to collaborate on this!
