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And we wonder why people seem more uninformed than ever...


The math is incorrect with Black people's faces more than White people's faces.

"Can't ban math", that's like saying "can't ban words". Yes, but you can ban a combination of words in a location, such a "There's a fire!" in a crowded theater. You can ban a combination of math in a police station that leads to people going to jail.


> The math is incorrect with Black people's faces more than White people's faces.

That's a limiting aspect of the physical world less light back = less details. Flagging footage for manual review doesn't need to be bias free just the end component that actually effects the person in the video.

Yelling fire in a crowded theater is legal.....

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/11/its-tim...


Does anyone know of any data about the racial bias of human police officers vs. facial recognition software?

That is, I am not sure if it makes sense to ban the software if it is less biased than the human. But it might make sense to ban it if it is more biased.

There are loads of people of color who have been falsely imprisoned for looking like someone in a grainy security camera footage well before facial recognition technology was widespread.


The issue here is a complete lack on the behalf of the FR industry from impressing the importance of human oversight, and then validating that human oversight does not suffer racial blindness. It is pointless if the operators of an FR system cannot distinguish between similar age siblings or cousins of the ethnicity they are seeking via FR. This is far too often the case, and those police officers operating an FR system could simply be replaced by same ethnicity operators to receive significantly less bias.


We have survived as a society for long time without the need for this.

You could say the same thing about the 1st, 4th, and 5th amendments. "what about the children"


You may be right. The facial recognition does seem to interact with the 4th amendment, at least. But then it happens in the public place? I don't know the answer to that one. I fear that in the age of social media and Antifa, the protections that we had before are no longer enough. Now we have additional actors on the streets who may turn to physical violence on a dime. I feel that the streets should be free from physical violence.


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Well, there's another amendment to the US constitution that is a substantial contributor to the level and severity of physical violence on our streets. But we won't talk about that...


Ok I'm at a loss what amendment don't we talk about that leads to violence on the streets. Are you just being trying to be cute and talk about the 13th?


I guess I shouldn't have been so coy: SECOND AMENDMENT.

I don't care if you're a Proud Boy or a John Brown Society member. More guns == more violence.


You mean the rampant hate speech and misinformation enabled by 1A?


There's still a ton of overhead for WASM and it's not first class. Using WASM is a lot like using C code in python. It's still nice to have features as first class citizens :)


Isn't most python just stringing together c and Fortran libraries that expose a python interface?


It amazes me at Python web engineers and Python ML engineers who go along completely unaware of the existence of the other group in any large numbers. (I say this as someone who went to my local pycon 5-6 years ago and was surprised that ML talks were like 30% of the topics)


I'd say money is cheap right now and fund managers would rather have people with information asymmetry invest their money, which OpenAI does via their API. I think it's a natural fit to invest in companies that use their API. This isn't a new idea, Stripe and Slack both do this.


It has for fish!


Its worse for Squid their brain is a torus shape with its esophagus running through the middle. their brain cannot stretch but their esophagus can making it so that if a squid were to swallow to large of a bite it can rip their brain.


Do you happen to have a link? Would love to share it with some friends showing signs of depression who are heavy social media users


I don't have it readily available, but I'll dig around and see if I can find what we covered in class. IIRC it was primarily focused on teenagers in the United States.


For the same reason many companies software gets lower quality over time. They grow and hire people who don't care. Everyone who did care leaves to start their next company that cares.


I think you want https://texts.com/ (not affiliated)


It's two clicks. "Let's Go", then "Hello World"


I think a hello world example is insufficient. I would like to see some more code examples, especially some that are useful in the real world for building websites. It doesn't have to be a fully functional hacker news clone in Grain, but it should definitely be a little bit more than hello world.


It isn't only insufficient by far, it's the only complete code example. There's as good as nothing else. The chapter on control structures isn't even there. There are some cryptic remarks on mutation, but that's it.


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