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Understanding crypto from this type of international context focused on these sorts of issues is where it indisputably makes much sense and is seeing indisputable adoption. Low and slow but end of the day to a very large and growing problem, bitcoin+ adoption or a mass civics readjustment in the US are the solutions. Which is more likely?

So it’s an inefficient tech with a mess of problems and uneven adoption but if you want to send $1-$1mm anywhere in the globe you can. That’s very powerful tech and the implications are about as important as anything else from cryptography hitting public adoption. And all of those have been consequential.. see 30 year fight about e2ee.


If you work in cybersecurity, I’d table many views in this thread and just understand it’s the place to be to cut your teeth in fairly hard security problems and make money along the way. If 1980’s security culture seemed cool with a new BoF everyday and Bill Gates himself calling you a bad word for doing it, and toss in advanced threat actors, a sec career in crypto isn’t too far off of that. Of course company by company variations apply and the above could include explaining EDR to small teams with absurds amounts of funds tied to a private key in a .txt.

That said, much of the feedback in this thread applies to working in it imo, as the other side of keeping these companies and their treasuries not hacked and capitalized is it exposes you to a lot.

That said, I’ve done big tech too, and the nonsense in crypto just has a couple less rungs of management insulation than the rest of tech. The rest of tech lives with the consequences of asinine decisions over 4-5x quarters and in crypto you live with it month to month. Pick your poison on preferred version of nonsensical tech instability.

There’s a twitter comment that covers what I’ve come to think - natural state of crypto is just a more direct instantiation of what’s going on everywhere else, crypto just doesn’t hide it (sort of). Hard not to believe that with tech selling “trade in your IRA!” as if that’s not offering a beer to my 20 yr sober Uncle Bob, in terms of products that are cancerous for “the people.” So I see nothing in crypto that’s not reflected everywhere in tech and civics right now.

The crypto tech or integrations to pay attention to - btc, atomic swaps cross-chain, trading firms, whatever finserv is testing for payment and settlement infra. All of these have deep building, are functional and funded. Wouldn’t bet against it over a career.


Universally adopted in part by very well known strong arm business practices from Big Ag vs farmers. This is a bad faith framing imo. Source - live in ag country

Haha very important disclaimer there, because reading your post sounds a lot like a person who works for big ag.

The other reason these laws exist is a long history by Big Ag (Monsanto, Cargill) doing the following, and has been done in the states for a while:

1) gmo/patented seeds in field on the left, community non-big ag seeds on the right field.

2) Cross-pollination occurs because we’re talking crops. Variations on this.

3) Monsanto sues Farmer John and Jane into the ground next season for stealing tech via the crops he’s growing.

Add in a little bit of fear (encryption backdoors for the children, laws to prevent dangerous counterfeit seeds!), and you have monopoly on farming run by big corps.

Also, US corps have a long history of POC’ing underhanded approaches in Africa.

What could be going on here!?

Edit - Man, rereading, “forced to plant [dangerous] saved seeds,” guess it’s Big Ag + tech startups now pushing this. Maybe… those farmers just want to control their “IP” (saved seeds) so they don’t have to buy them from a cartel of seed providers? This is such a well known problem in the states, is this marketing really working in Africa?

Final edit on the soapbox - other reason why this matters is genetic diversity. Crop blight is a thing. There is no way the natural “herd immunity” of a basket of seed variants in a community is outstripped in effectiveness by a growing monoculture of owned hybrid seeds that stay in front of the blights each season. Coffee rust already jumped the Atlantic from Africa to SA. Often feels like I’ve read this sci-fi novel already (there is a good one - Windup Girl).


From what I've read, the articles about Monsanto suing innocent farmers is misleading.


“ The usual Monsanto claim involves patent infringement by intentionally replanting patented seed”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto_legal_cases

Edit - Can’t reply again looks like but to the response below, yes many view this approach as effectively leading to enforcing what you state. Which is why it is so horribly underhanded to me, and seeing supporting narratives in hackernews was striking.


Doesn't this mean that farmers will no longer be able to reuse their own seeds then, if a neighbor has GMO seeds?

No, it doesn't. From their "commitment" [1] which was affirmed by the courts as binding in a 2010s court case (Organic Seed Growers & Trade Ass'n v. Monsanto):

> We do not exercise our patent rights where trace amounts of our patented seeds or traits are present in a farmer’s fields as a result of inadvertent means.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20101023123618/http://www.monsan...


> where trace amounts of our patented seeds or traits are present in a farmer’s fields as a result of inadvertent means.

That sounds like a very hollow commitment to me. Who defines what "trace" is. Monsanto?

And what is the normal cross pollination rate from doing nothing. 1% 5%? It sounds like it just means we won't sue you the first year, we'll wait until the second year then sue you.

The practice needs to be banned. It's Monsanto seeds that are spreading their genetics in the wind. If they don't want that, then make crops that can't. If they're unable to, then tough.

Saying nobody within pollination range can grow their own crops anymore once someone nearby purchases Monsanto seeds is absurd.

That's all aside from the fact that patenting things that reproduce still is somewhat of a weak concept to begin with.

Putting an absurd tech spin on it. If you made a robot/machinr that could replicate itself sure patent it. If you made a robot that sent out radio waves and every machine within receiving distance could/would suddenly replicate, you can't sue those owners for "stealing your technology".


The proof is in the pudding. To my knowledge Monsanto has never sued anyone over inadvertent cross contamination regardless of the percentages. The cases where they have sued were farmers who explicitly went out and got Roundup resistant seeds to use with Roundup from unlicensed vendors or in violation of a license they themselves signed with Monsanto.

It has never made any sense for them to enforce it against cross contamination because farmers don't want the seeds if they're not already nuking everything with glyphosate. They either buy F1 seeds every year for the extra yield hybrid vigor gives them or they save seed that's somewhat optimized for their growing conditions.

> Saying nobody within pollination range can grow their own crops anymore once someone nearby purchases Monsanto seeds is absurd.

This is a fantasy you have concocted, not the reality.


Meaning it didn’t happen, or the farmers aren’t as innocent as the word innocent legally implies?

Comment could be considered misleading…


To use the example provided by the anti-Monsanto upthread poster as a example of Monsanto being underhanded:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowman_v._Monsanto_Co

1. Bowman buys Monsanto soybeans as seeds agreeing to not replant the soybean harvest.

2. Bowman sells the soybean harvest to a food wholesaler who sells to retailers who sells to consumers for consumption.

3. Bowman buys soybeans back from that same food wholesaler (who normally only sells for consumption) intending to replant those food soybeans (which is abnormal).

4. Bowman then tests the seeds he bought to verify which ones were the ones he sold which had the Monsanto modifications (or his neighbors who were also using Monsanto seeds with the same contract) and which he was not allowed to replant as per the contract in 1.

5. Bowman then only replants the ones with the modifications and uses Roundup in those fields.

6. Bowman then repeatedly saves and replants seeds from that crop to amplify their quantity of modified crop and purchases more seeds from the food wholesaler.

It was about as premeditated and intentional a contract violation as you can get.


What's the example on the other end of the spectrum?

Hello, are you still there?

There have been court cases, but in most cases, they weren't simply "innocent farmer happened to grow IP-infringing crop simply due to being near a farm that used GMO crops and cross-pollinating by accident".

How does that suing pass muster is any court of law?

Does it need to? Unfortunately, a threat of a lawsuit by a large company is weapon enough to make people buckle.

Read "confessions of an economic hitman", you'll get the gist

More expensive lawyers.

Good question

Not a great post, I’d not follow it if interested in leading teams long term.

A Self-admitted self taught manager learns the good parts about servant leadership via self-learning (nice!) but figures that is all there is instead of - “this is interesting, this seems to work but have gaps, what is there to this?”

If the author did that, they’d discover a massive body of knowledge to include the specific problem they point out - you solve problems for your team, how do they start to solve their own problems?

Servant leadership works if paired with the following, tuned to the capabilities and maturities of the specific employee:

- servant leadership: resource your team, umbrella your team, let the smart people you hired do smart things, or turn so so employees into great ones by resourcing them to learn, getting them mentorship, and “sun is strong than cold wind” sort of thinking.

- Left/right limits and target outcome: consistently inform your team their duty, in exchange for all the above manager work that’s way past the least-effort bar, is to get comfortable solving problems within the bounds of what the solution does and does not need to look like. Force this issue always, and they start solving their own problems at growing speed, and you have a QA check as a manager via documenting those boundaries per project etc

- train your replacement: part serving your team is reaching there’s probably another sociopath on it who wants to lead teams, wants raw power, and so on. Enable that! Teach them how to lead teams in the above fashion. They’ll realize it works. You’ll train someone who can take over the remaining problem solving. This won’t hurt your own job either.

Put it all together you’ll get very loyal productive teams of employees who’ll respect you outside of work in your industry where it matters for networking purposes, and you can live with yourself after the laptop closes as you know you’re treating your fellow man/woman the right way while surving in crazy corporate environments.

In short, bad advice in that article. There’s a whole corpus to leadership beyond what the author figured out in the side and describes here ha.

Edit - ironically the author then argues for arguably similar as the above, but claims it’s something else of their own invention. Engineers should really grok how there are existing bodies of very useful knowledge for all the things that seem easily dismissible as gaps or weak points from tho social sciences. It’d save them a lot of time.


Servant leadership works just fine in business (as in a competitive non-church environment) as long you’re aware you you’re serving and who you’re working peer to peer with/against/whatever.

Another term for it somewhat is being a “players coach.”

End state is you will build loyal as heck teams with it, and if you want to take a very cynical business mindset, it produces with the least pain and suffering three very impotent outcomes - your team will produce output, they won’t hate you along the way, and your team will write you (well earned) manager perf reviews. A manager who has a loyal as heck team up and down the stack builds unique odds of corporate survival.

All it takes is a little EQ.


Assuming a 101 security program past the quality bar, there are a number of reason why this can still happen at companies.

Summarized as - security is about risk acceptance, not removal. There’s massive business pressure to risk accept AI. Risk acceptance usually means some sort of supplemental control that’s not the ideal but manages. There are very little of these with AI tools however - small vendors, they’re not really service accounts but IMO best way to monitor them probably is that, integrations are easy, eng companies hate devs losing admin of some kind but if you have that random AI on endpoints becomes very likely.

I’m ignoring a lot of nuance but solid sec program blown open by LLM vendors is going to be common, let alone bad sec programs. Many sec teams I think are just waiting for the other shoe to drop for some evidentiary support while managing heavy pressure to go full bore AI integration until then.


You missed risk creation vs reward creation.

And then folks can gasp and faint like goats and pretend they didn’t know.

It reminds me of the time I met an IT manager who dint have an IT background. Outsourced hilarity ensued through sales people who were also non-technical.


What am I missing? Risk acceptance is what you’re referring to - risk creation and reward creation.

Sec lead might have a pretty darn clear idea of an out of whack creation of risk v reward. CEO disagrees. Risk accept and move on.

When you’re technical and eventually realize there’s a business to survive behind the tech skills, this is the stuff you learn how to do.

People “will know” as you say because it’s all documented and professionally escalated.


Manipulating this for creative accounting seems to be the root of Michael Burry’s argument, although I’m not fluent enough in his figures to map here. But, commenting that it interesting to see IBM argue a similar case (somewhat), or comments ITT hitting the same known facts, in light of Nvidia’s counterpoints to him.

Burry just did his first interview for many years https://youtu.be/nsE13fvjz18?t=265

with Michael Lewis, about 30 mins long. Highlights - he thinks we are near the top, his puts are for two years time. If you go long he suggests healthcare stocks. He's been long gold some years, thinks bitcoin is dumb. Thinks this is dotcom bubble #2 except instead of pro investors it's mostly index funds this time. Most recent headlines about him have been bad reporting.


Why is that the problem for above the legal speed limit drivers?

A slow fleet of Waymo’s will impact your average 5-10 over same as your 20 over, and that’ll collectively impact traffic.

The implicit assumption you and many other in tech share is humans must adapt to the tech protocol, and not the other way around.

After 20 years of growing negative externalities from this general approach, which I see baked into your comment - are we seriously about to let this occur all over again with a new version of tech?

Fool me once, fool me twice… I think we’re at fool me 10 times and do it again in terms of civic trust of tech in its spaces.


As long as they don't sit in the passing lane, I don't see how a fleet of vehicles moving at a consistent speed and not driving erratically will have any more negative impact on traffic than a human driver. Like other's have mentioned, it might actually improve traffic as you don't have people speeding up to get close to a person and then quickly slowing down, causing "phantom" traffic jams.

Also, if the Waymos are following the laws, and that causes problems... then maybe those laws should be changed? Especially if most drivers already don't follow the laws.


Already happening depending on if you live downwind of the dried up parts.


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