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While the bandwidth numbers seem terrible given this is from an entire beam at it's peak and beams are wide, this is super useful for things like sms where bandwidth is not a concern. At 17 Mb/s you can have thousands of simultaneous sms sends without issue


Yeah, it could be god sent for natural disasters and truly remote locations. But it is not replacement for regular mobile service.


For emergencies in truly remote locations. In a natural disaster, you have everybody at once refreshing news and checking in on friends and family that even undamaged networks could struggle.

When the network has broken down you'd better be prepared to have teams fixing what is fixable, and the ability to deploy pop-up cells on the ground. If you have skimped on that preparation betting on satellite cells to save the day the contribution of Starlink to disaster preparedness might end up being a net negative.

That being said, pop-up cells on a startlink as their backhaul could become huge in disaster preparedness. Some contract scheme for standby basestations might actually become a big component of the Starlink business model. The good news is that all talk to regular phones can't overlap with regular starlink frequencies, so unless it blocks some other bottlenecks like SDR DSP capacity it won't compete with regular connections (certainly won't have a meaningful impact on orbital backbone load)


Surely this is an ideal usecase for IP multicast? Given that SpaceX controls effectively the entire LEO retail internet at the moment they’re in an ideal position to push a standard for multicasting emergency or regional updates.


You are talking about layer 3 while people are talking about layer 2.


I am thinking true disasters, where a simple message with your location can save lives.

I believe it should be possible to disable all communication except basic sms and emergency communication like 911 or similar can be accessed without SIM.


I hope there's some broadcast stuff planned (does cellular support multicast like that?). So I can just point my phone at the sky and get some news/weather/traffic updates "off-line". Maybe a radio station or two? It's pretty impressive what can fit into 32kbps (or less!) these days.


Yes, that's how SMS emergency alerts work

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_Broadcast


> is part of the 2G, 3G, 4G LTE (telecommunication) and 5G standards

Interesting as Canada's system only works on LTE or higher (we still have 3G here).

I camped on 3G for a while because they kept sending out Amber Alerts at the "Presidential" level for custody disputes. Gov repeatedly denied any issue but haven't sent any for a while. Either people stopped "abducting" their own kids or they changed their threshold-to-blast.


Was your 3G on CDMA2000 rather than the 3GPP UMTS/WCDMA/HSDPA standards? That could account for the difference


One of our two big networks was, the other was not.


Viasats service supported this via USB plug in drive on the modem to load some content. Don't think it was released out of beta.


Hmm, but SMS rely on the cellular tower protocol, basically being carried on the status messages that cellphones already constantly send/receive anyway - they don't use the IP (at least until the tower).

So I'm not even sure they can be sent/received by satellite ??


Starlink is using 5G, a cellular tower protocol. The only other option would be WiFi which can not do long distance, at least without both ends being designed for it (which a cellphone is not).


Iridium should be worried.


There is a 3GPP standard for satellite to phone connectivity which Iridium is adopting:

https://www.iridium.com/project-stardust/


Their 66 satellites are going to support a much lower aggregate constellation throughput and spot beam count vs StarLink. They’re fundamentally constrained by lift costs and low constellation satellite count.

Iridium has 48 spot beams per satellite each covering 250 miles. Each StarLink cell covers ~15 miles with a similar spot beam count, with 5,442 satellites currently operational (as of this comment).

https://planet4589.org/space/con/star/stats.html

(Disclosure: StarLink customer, no other affiliation)


Most of those sats don't support direct to cell though. But more will come of course.

And are the spot beams for direct to cell the same in size and quantity?


Good question. I could not find the cell size specifically for the LTE coverage, and agree it will take time for the constellation to turn over to maximize the direct to phone capability. Regardless, SpaceX launches more StarLink satellites in three flights (~69) than Iridium has in its entire constellation.


Not sure why this is fundamentally different from existing e2e testers with bootstrapping


Can you clarify what you mean? Usually, e2e testers don't have a bootstrapping stage for app-level changes, only for things that can be done via the browser automation APIs.


(Views are my own and unrelated to my employer)

This shouldn't surprise anyone. Tiktok has made it clear many times over that while they pretend to be in the clear and un affiliated with the ccp they are a direct arm of the ccp that uses tiktok as an arm to influence global politics.

Why this stuff has not been banned as a national security threat is beyond me.


I hope it does not get banned. Even if they try to ban it, they have to then contend with all the people building their careers on it/consider it a essential part of their lives. Might be enough to motivate Millenials/Gen Z to cone out to the ballot box and remove anyone who was responsible. (This is probably why they havent banned it yet)

While I don't use TikTok, its been fascinating watching the US lose its marbles over the idea that there is an avenue for mass dissemination of ideas that they cannot control. It really became real when the Pro-Palestine content translated into mass protests all across the west. Israel really dug themselves into a hole and I sometimes wonder, if this trend continues, what are they going to do once the Boomers die and down the road we get a Gen-Z president?

Sure you have state sponsored channels like RT that try to provide alternative views but they dont have anywhere near the eyeballs TikTok gets and they can be easily discredited.

The last time the US had a major competitor was in the 80s. Finally someone has come along that is challenging the US on many levels, not just social media apps.

I had always wished Europe to get their act together and serve as a democratic counter balance to the US but these days they are not even in the conversation. But at least China is trying despite the fact that they are less than savory.

We will continue to have access to American social media apps pushing their nonsense and acting like they provide freedom while quietly suppressing content they don't like (ex. anti-Israel). Meta/Youtube/X platforms are not going away. I love the fact that the mass market has some choice now.


RT doesn't provide "alternative views". It's pure, unfiltered propaganda. Can you honestly navigate there, read something and then claim "yeah, just another viewpoint"?


Yes its nonsense but it does push the Russian point of view. You might think its absurd but they don't. Its just as absurd as the US pushing "weapons of mass destruction" down peoples throats and running with that nonsense for years. The point is that it is on a US owned platform that allows it to be suppressed, removed or outright dismissed.

Tiktok is not in that situation at all and that is a new paradigm we haven't had in a while.


It's wild to believe that if you just consume the worst information diarrhea from "both sides" that you'll have a nice holy unbiased universe-brain view. It's even more wild to see this fallacious nonsense here.


The point is that you have the option whereas before it didn't really exist in a mass market fashion.


I certainly wouldn't! But I would also add that many (most?) prominent US news outlets are just as bad.


Because if we’re willing to export propaganda and unwilling to receive any in return then we’re a nation of hypocrites.


> if we’re willing to export propaganda and unwilling to receive any in return then we’re a nation of hypocrites

To the degree war and competition are hypocritical, sure. All you’ve done is expanded the definition of hypocrisy to meaninglessness.


There’s a culture war, not a real war with China. If we censor the CCP just like they censor us then we are just as authoritarian as them.


> There’s a culture war, not a real war with China

China’s a geopolitical adversary. We didn’t need to go to war with the Soviets for the Cold War to be real. (Also what on earth is a “culture war” in geopolitical terms?)

> If we censor the CCP just like they censor us then we are just as authoritarian as them

Only to someone with no sense of scale. Again, you can do that. But you expand the definition of authoritarianism to cover just about any human activity.


>Only to someone with no sense of scale. Again, you can do that. But you expand the definition of authoritarianism to cover just about any human activity.

So start referring to America as "softer authoritarians than China" instead of this charade you put up now. Then people would be less miffed by your hypocrisy.

Everything political that comes out of America is such self-serving slop that I don't understand how anyone above age 30 buys it. When mass-censorship and consensus manufacturing is enacted on mainstream social media (oh sorry, when the US does it it's just "the algorithm" and "alignment", not a mean evil dictatorship), when Americans are forbidden from having a chance to vote for their preferred president in Colorado, when you wage a proxy war against Russia to the last Ukrainian man, when you get Ukraine to ban all opposition political parties, when you bomb countries for decades in the Middle East, every time it's done in the name of democracy.


Unfortunately a lot of 'special interests' are trying as hard as they can to turn that culture war into a genuine hot war - which I don't feel anyone has any real appetite or need for - and all/most of the media seem to be playing along.

It's a bit exhausting and frankly, pathetic, to watch people literally talking it into existence out of thin air.


That does not follow at all.


What a ridiculous take. Do you also want to be worked to death in a sweatshop because banning it would be too authoritarian?


No because I believe in workers rights… and freedom of speech. Civil rights are important democratic principles.


We should accept foreign propaganda due to… hypocrisy? What does that even mean?


Due to freedom of speech being a core value of democracy and censorship/information control being a core value of authoritarianism.


> Due to freedom of speech being a core value of democracy

Freedom of speech != freedom to operate a company or platform.


Fair point. Banning a social media platform because of topics discussed though seems like a dangerous precedent to set. Seems like a free speech issue to me though.

I think most people are aware of the CCP influence on TikTok. I hope reports like these make people question if they’re being manipulated on the platform. People should always question the validity of the media they consume.


citizens rejecting foreign propaganda is a solid display of strength


Statistics and large numbers say that citizens will not do anything uniformly.

It would be nice if people universally rejected smoking, but there are social/economic benefits to banning it because statistics.


This is nonsense. In war, is it hypocritical to bomb the enemy but not your own side? Of course not. Propaganda is a weapon, you deploy weapons against your enemies and you protect your own people from your enemy's weapons.

Foreign adversaries do not have free speech rights in the United States.


We aren't at war. Propaganda in peacetime and bombs at any time are so disanalogous it is comical.

You win a war of ideas by presenting better ideas, not by censoring bad ideas.


why would that be hypocritical?


Why can’t Apple just disable the oxymeter feature in the interim and continue selling Apple Watches?


The tech behind this is great, but I fear what the TV makers will do with this to prevent you from disabling ads. Samsung is bad enough as is, having a built in connection will make it even worse.


I rented an old house for a few years that had lath and plaster walls, but they stapled chicken wire to the lath prior to adding the plaster. It made for a decent faraday cage. I had to stand by a window to get cell service. Wifi would not propagate between rooms, so I had to setup a mesh system with individual ethernet connections. I miss it.


Interesting. Are you sure it wasn't just metal lathe, which is meshed like chicken wire a bit?

My old 1940s had that, and wifi basically didn't work without the doors left open. I do miss its soundproofing, though.


I think you are describing expanded metal. This was definitely twisted wires. I had a heck of a time cutting in the boxes for the ethernet. It was built in 1905, and some flipper at some point decided to leave the lath and plaster and just add lath and drywall overtop. Presumably the same person put a metal roof over the old composite shingles and vinyl siding over the wood. They also chose to not add insulation. Always get an inspection before you buy!


Plain cellular connectivity would be enough for that, just about every TV would have a good terrestrial cell signal.


And this will almost certainly be more expensive than plain old cellular. TV manufacturers would be covering a very niche market of people who have a TV in a location with no cellular coverage.


If it was economical to do it they would, but that's still a long ways away I think


But I believe it's uneconomical more for licensing reasons than BOM reasons. Cellular baseband modems are an oligopoly, and so they attach all sorts of rev-share fees to use of their chips, beyond just the cost of the chip itself.


Apple actually owns the baseband/modem group they bought from Intel a couple of years ago. The 11 and 11 Pro were shipped with in-house ex-Intel modems. Since then they have moved back to Qualcomm but I have to imagine they're continuing development and will cut Qualcomm out one day. [1]

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/01/qualcomm-ceo-says-planning-f...


Yup, there are guides for how to open up your new TV and remove/disable the M2M modem inside. I don't think the cellular connection being in the sky will change too much about that.


I'm sorry, what? My TV is phoning home over the cell network?


How else would they bypass your home network and any firewalls in place?

Novel problems require novel solutions.


How do you think they make em so cheap?


I knew they phoned home in general, but it has generally been done over wifi. I'm surprised to hear that they are now including cell modems.


Would love to know more about this. I thought I had successfully neutered the Roku spyware on my TV by not giving it my network password.


They can and will connect to any free Wi-Fi


Do many people have a TV outdoors?


Not gonna happen. You need line of sight to the satellites.


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For more information or to rent a display you can send us an email isaac@bigtopdisplays.com


"You solved it, congrats!" :)

Got an email bounce from your address. Would love to hear about your AOSP experience!


Thanks! I Misspelled the email, it's fixed now! Looking forward to hearing from you.


This piece smells like ccp propaganda. @dang


The "blue badges" of software packages. Honestly not a bad idea but who and what determines a package to be "trusted"? Will there be transparency into the decisions?


This has nothing to do with trusting packages; it’s about delegating publishing authority to a service like GitHub Actions.


How do you know that what the action is doing is trustworthy?


You didn't read the link.


Did you double check that other people are having this issue? Seems very likely that this could be something affecting just your access key or something like that


This one, a single report does not an outage make.


It seems to be affecting a lot of people using Instagram Display API but not the Instagram Graph API. Loads of reports.

https://developers.facebook.com/support/bugs/743806503999661


If the screen was broken how did you manage to enable debugging and perform authorization?


Not OP. I faced a similar problem once.

I found a friend that owned the same model of phone as mine. I used his phone to approximately eye-measure where on the screen I have to press after entering the Settings app.

Now I repeated these presses on my phone. Luckily, although my phone was broken and the screen had become almost fully black, the touches registered.

----------- edit:- If you find it difficult to find a friend that owns your unique phone, your local mobile shop might have a demo phone for you to try out.

Or Youtube search for a video titled "How to enable debugging permissions on Samsung S8?"


I actually have the perfect(?) solution to this ridiculous problem after it happened to me a couple of months ago.

Hit the Google Assistant button, ask it to turn on "TalkBack". Now you can browse the interface the same way someone blind would browse the interface. Plug in a USB keyboard.

From here you go to the Settings page and enable Developer Tools.


If you have assistant disabled, holding down volume-up and volume-down buttons together on the lockscreen should have the same effect


in my case a simple USBC-2-USB adaptor allowed me to connect a mouse and it worked right away

like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wggP-e3A1Y

stupid as it looks it saved my data without any sophisticated repair


The comment said 'mostly broke', many people are familiar enough with their phones and the various screens prompts to do this without looking at all, or with a little guess work with help from various only resources, images & videos.


Perhaps the prompt wasn't on the broken part? Can also plug in a keyboard and use that if you know the sequence.


Note that scrcpy has an OTG mode which allows to use the computer keyboard and mouse "as if" they were connected via an OTG cable: https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy/blob/master/doc/hid-otg... (in that case, USB debugging is not necessary)

> Can also plug in a keyboard and use that if you know the sequence.

For information, once the phone is unlocked and the authorization popup is open, the sequence to validate the authorization popup is Tab, Enter, Tab, Tab, Enter. The difficult part is to enable USB debugging to get the authorization popup without adb though.


Has anyone gotten this mode to work with Windows yet?



Thanks ... I'll try installing the Google drivers.


srcpy can actually emulate a keyboard and mouse in OTG mode! Discovering that was a thrill for my use case.


Has anyone gotten this mode to work with Windows yet?


Either was already enabled or utilized a custom recovery and modified build.prop.


I would love to read more about this solution. Would you please direct me to the appropriate XDA forum thread please. Please...:)


No XDA thread that I know of, but have a nice gist. https://gist.github.com/varhub/7b9555cdd1e5ad785ffde2300fcfd...


Thank you!

Bye, going to Craigslist to buy them broken landfill phones before your suggestion becomes more popular and the price increases :)


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