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It's funny that people blame the site for this.

That toxicity is just part of software engineering culture. It's everywhere.


Its karma farming. Number must go up regardless of the human cost. Thats why the same problem is seen here, to a lesser extent.

Karma in social media is a technology to produce competitiveness and unhappiness, usually to increase advertising engagement.

Compare how nice the people are on 4chan /g/ board compared to the declining years of SO. Or Reddit for that matter.


Real security systems don't publicize how they work.

This is just grandstanding. Half the people from this lab will go on to work for AI companies.


> Real security systems don't publicize how they work.

175 years of history would disagree with you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity


That old saw. Downvote all you want. Adversarial engineering does indeed rely on obscurity, they just don't tell you that.

I've been working in security for more than 20 years and have seen the deleterious effects of security through obscurity first-hand. Why does "adversarial engineering" rely on obscurity?

And now you know the only reason these labs get any funding.

It's all to benefit industry, whether the academics realize it or not.


In an arms race, the party with the most money always wins.

Citation needed.

I generally agree with you but AI confusion is also a good signal your abstractions are nonsense.

One problem there is that people would rather believe the AI is "dumb" than face the facts.


There's really no such thing as complete verification.

The quest for purity is some fountain of youth nonsense that distracts a lot of otherwise brilliant engineers.

Ask the AI to make a program that consumes a program and determine if it halts.


It is definitely harder to refactor Haskell than it is Typescript. Both are "safe" but one is slightly safer, and much harder to work with.


Why does ever HN thread read like a churlish blogger review of the latest installment of <popular-scifi-franchise>?

Github is great. It barely changes at all and yet it's still too much for this originalist crowd.


Hint: Type the '.' key on any code page or PR.


And now it opens... some VSCode-esque editor in the browser that asks me to sign-in? Why would I want something even more resource-hungry and convoluted just to look up a random thing once in a while?


If you're familiar with VSCode it's quite handy. If you hate VSCode for some reason then just don't use it.


It is a law. The law of entropy.

Try as you might, you cannot fight entropy eternally, as mistakes in this fight will accumulate and overpower you. It's the natural process of aging we see in every lifeform.

The way life continues on despite this law is through reproduction. If you bud off independent organisms, an ecosystem can gain "eternal" life.

The cost is that you must devote much of your energy to effective reproduction.

In software, this means embracing rewrites. The people who push against rewrites and claim they're not necessary are just as delusional as those who think they can live forever.


You don't understand very much about entropy. This reasoning is very, very, very sloppy.


Now I remember why I stopped commenting here.


low-effort comment with ad hominem and zero rationale. fairly toxic.


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