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People who are not new Linux users might prefer a distro which is part of the same "family" of distros they are already familiar with.

Steam OS I believe is based on Arch. Bazzite is based on Fedora. Personally I have experience with Debian distros so if I wanted a gaming-focused distro I would pick maybe something like Pop OS.


Pop!_OS isn't good for gaming thanks to being quite behind in package versions. You're better off going with a dedicated gaming distro (which offers recent packages) such as PikaOS if you want a Debian base.

I have both a steamdeck on SteamOS and a pc on Bazzite and they both work exactly the same. They both run literally the same steam UI and both run flawlessly so I couldn’t even tell you which one I’m using if you just showed me a screen and controller.

There is difference in the desktop part. SteamOS has KDE as gui and Bazzite you can pick Gnome. Another major thing is that Bazzite is better prepared for desktop use - it has many ways how to instal packages and dev tools. I run bazzite and webdev on it comfortably.

I tried Pop before Bazzite on my PC back in April and maybe I’m just bad at Linux, but it was a pain in the ass for gaming at first boot. Bazzite ran Expedition 33 out the box. Didn’t have to download drivers, didn’t have to configure anything, it just worked.

There are limitations but if you want a gaming machine, bazzite is a no-brainer to me. Poo is very impressive but I just don’t want to fight my OS constantly when it comes to gaming.


That typo at the end was unfortunate

Clippy was chosen precisely because it was so famously bad.

The point of choosing Clippy is to imply that much of what we have now is more anti-user than one of the most anti-user pieces of software of the 90's.


Exactly, it hearkens to the halcyon days when Microsoft was the biggest evil in tech.

Learned a bit more about this initiative since then. I guess this is a great example of why I heavily dislike creator initiatives like this. In their world getting more people to comment is a good thing, no matter what the comment says. In the real world this mostly benefits the creator and harms the initiative, since the first interaction people have with it is about the initiative being dishonest.

Ubuntu with a custom DE that has pre-set options to look like Windows or MacOS, so that people moving to Linux from another OS find themselves at home. The custom DE is based on Gnome according to the Wikipedia page[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zorin_OS


I am Italian, that was one of the proudest moment in our history.

The Achille Lauro episode was an example of Italy choosing what's best for the region rather than what's best for the people across the Atlantic. Hundreds of hostages' lives were saved by the actions of the Italian Government that day.

For context, in the post WW2 era, hundreds of Italian civilians were killed in accidents caused by US military operations in Italy, and our spineless leaders did nothing. In many cases they actively helped covering up the truth. Two of many examples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itavia_Flight_870

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Cavalese_cable_car_crash


FWIW I was watching a warfare simulation game on YouTube yesterday, and the players were talking about the 1998 Cavalese cable. I remembered reports of it vividly; as a student pilot, one of my recurrent nightmares is of massive electrical cables everywhere, flying through that and trying to escape.

It was far worse for the people on that cable car. It was awful then and still awful now.


What's roughly the period when this kind of shenanigans started being common among major automakers? I'm not a car guy and thinking about a used car soon[1], Not sure how far back I should go in terms of year. I am in Australia BTW.

[1] would be family's 2nd car. We have another recent car with all the online crap, I hate it


Get a blindfold and throw a dart. You're talking about a +/-15yr range depending on the OEM and the product line in question.

Some random Suzuki on a platform that they're dearth to refresh and that primarily garners 3rd world sales is gonna grow "fuck you pay me" features a lot later than a 4Runner, or whatever else 200k+ households buy when they pop out a kid these days.

You need to do your research on a per model basis, generalizations won't help unless you're familiar enough with how that OEM does things to take an educated guess in which case you probably don't need the generalization in the first place.


I've been using this for a long time and it works better than the official client (which I use on another computer) because it has less bugs.

For example the official client has a bug where it will open chats in a separate window even when the user did not intend to (has to do with the first click being ignored while Teams it's out of focus, and the second click being interpreted as a double click). The unofficial Teams for Linux doesn't have this problem.


I encounter this on Mac most days as well.

Teams is the pinnacle of bad Microsoft design forced on to everyone, even if they don't use Windows.

> But, but, but, what features is it missing?

Is always the response from Microsoft apologists. Why do I have to have different ways of calling depending on whether its a group or a chat? And chat calls don't alert the other person that you are even calling them? What a pile of shit. I know Slack also introduced shit huddles, because why not break something that already works, but that doesn't mean you have to copy them.

It's not always missing features, its that the UI is a series of papercuts.


AI has existed for several decades before the first LLM was ever created.[1][2][3]

And that's not even considering machine learning and deep learning which also have existed for many years before LLMs.

Even if you consider the current usage of the word AI in popular culture, it includes things that are not an LLM like Stable Diffusion and Suno

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert_system

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_(chess_computer)

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_machine#Historical_contex...


> why, in traditional rich desktop applications, I can't say I have ever missed the ability to select and copy text from the UI

I do miss this on an almost daily basis and I have stopped paying for services that force me to use an app without offering a website.

The last instance of this was just a couple days ago when I could not copy a tracking number from an e-commerce app (to then paste it into the shipping company website) but at least this e-commerce company has a web UI so I could rely on that.

Oh and the other one that I miss almost daily is cmd-F / ctrl-F


Most mobile experiences (and macOS desktop) let you select unselectable stuff with OCR.

For macOS is by screencap and selecting on preview, for phones in their respective “ai analysis views” usually long pressing the bottom.

I know it’s a silly flow when it could be selectable straight away, just pointing it out.


This is why technology is becoming garbage. In 2025 instead of copy paste, we fire up a gpu in a datacenter. it feels like "software engineering" is just becoming a BS contest for "how much AI can we shoehorn into everything"


Not fully disagreeing, but this lack of copypaste is not an intended ai feature.

- The “magic ocr thingy” exists for things like taking a picture of the real world and grabbing text from it, or grabbing text from a video from something you saw recorded there. Think translating a foreign sign or whatever.

- interfaces have, for unrelated reasons, become more hostile to standard actions like copypaste.

As a result people end up having to ocr-scan interfaces with the tool.


Some of it is because how people interact with and use tech has changed.

Mobile users have completely outpaced laptop/desktop users, and mobile users don't think in terms of files and text, so to them copy & paste is less important. The mythical "average user" moves arbitrary text and data around using screenshots and screen recordings instead of text and files.

Yes, it's incredibly inefficient, but I think it's evolved that day because selecting text is a real pain on a small touch screen, and companies have been trying to abstract away any concept of a filesystem for a long time.

So you or I might care and be bothered that we can't copy & paste something from UI chrome or content in a "web app" but the average person won't care, they'll just take a screenshot.


I never tried that, thank you!


"E commerce apps" are very much not the sort of traditional desktop application they were referring to. Note that they add "in badly designed mobile apps, I often do."

They're referring more to things like "you can't copy the text labeling the brush width field in Photoshop" (but you CAN copy the text out of that editable field). It's a part of app design people are extremely lazy with today, as you note.

In any sensibly designed desktop package tracking app that number would've been selectable or copy-able text, like how an email subject is in a desktop email app. (Thunderbird, say.)

(Interestingly, ctrl-f to find is one that many apps/OSes have now borrowed back, with the ability to "find" items in menus through a Help menu -> Search action.)


Archive link for those who, like me, are unable to scroll on that page

https://web.archive.org/web/20251111210606/https://www.soke....

PS to add more - I am unable to scroll, all I see is the picture with the dark background. If I use arrow keys instead of the touchpad, I can scroll a bit then after a second or so the page snaps back to the top. I have Firefox on MacOS.

(I know the HN rules say that we should focus on the contents rather than criticising the technical aspects of a website, but in this case the contents are not accessible).


Just to add to it: I found out that disabling the plugin Logitech SetPoint allows me to scroll (it's slow and unpleasant but at least I can scroll)


In Italy, where I grew up, my grandparents used to read the Almanacco di Barbanera; the first edition came out in 1762. It is still around https://www.barbanera.it/


Similarly in the Netherlands, my grandparents used to have the Enkhuizer Almanak. Also still around after 430 years https://www.almanak.nl/


barbanera = black beard


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