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Sounds dystopian. I hope projects like OsmocomBB and Purism Librem will shape the future


In Russia ECH is already banned by the state censorship. Even before RFC is published


No one's allowed to do business with Russia anyways. Слышен ли звук падающего дерева в лесу, если рядом никого нет? Poor guys they barely even had a chance to catch up with the 20th Century.


Not surprised, considering UK's ridiculous key disclosure law (United Kingdom The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (RIPA), Part III, activated by ministerial order in October 2007, requires persons to decrypt information and/or supply keys to government representatives to decrypt information without a court order.) that makes anyone with high-entropy random data (which is undistinguishable from the crypto-container) a criminal for "not providing the keys to decrypt"


This is the way that the UK has passed laws for a while now, make them so broad that they potentially criminalise everyone, then selectively prosecute. This is a very obvious setup for future totalitarianism. I’m surprised that the British public stands for it, but I guess they must not care.


People here are very passive and used to being pulled around. It's insane how far people's rights have eroded already. No right to protest, no right for privacy - what's next on the chopping block?


The impression I have is that (some) people in the UK protest but are ignored, vilified, or punished for it. And then nothing changes.

The last time I wrote to my MP, I got a form letter back basically saying "Don't bother contacting us, only The Party matters". (I mean, those weren't the words at all; but having had lame-but-bespoke messages back from them in the past, this was a noticeable and disheartening change).


No right to own money. That will be taken away when cash is phased out.


No right to be mean on social media, too.


Who defines what is mean? Oh yes, some unelected bureaucrat


Typically this is judges.

I’m not sure how accountability for the justice service would increase by adding more politics into the mix.


Future totalitarianism? Is the UK's government restricted in anyway right now? What line have they not crossed yet?


As far as I know they haven’t started murdering political opponents yet, so that’s something. But I take your point, the UK is today not a serious country for a variety of reasons.


Are there really any political opponents any more? Al the parties that matter are either explicitly in favour of these ideas or at least behave as though they are.


Given Jeremy Corbyn and Nigel Farage are in the same elected chamber, I’d be interested in what you think you mean by “political opponent”


Whatever the person I was replying to means by political opponent. My point was that they are not opponents if they want the same thing or acquiesce to the same thing.


This is fuelled by notion that law enforcement is incompetent and doesn't work.

If law enforcement won't catch criminal even if you had them all the details, evidence, witnesses, then average person thinks there laws are dead anyway as there is no one competent to enforce them.


> I’m surprised that the British public stands for it, but I guess they must not care.

I can educate people but it always comes back to "I've not got anything to hide". What are we suppose to do, go out to the streets and protest? Start a petition, right to a PM who has no idea what encryption is?

Mentioning Linux to my family opens a can of worms. We are naive to think protesting actually changes something, it's old fashion. Those with power just don't care so unless people attack with their wallets nothing will come from.

It's not 1995 so unless you have £ for lobbying surrounded by people in suites there is nothing public of any nation can do against anyone in power.


They have this power precisely because you have given up. Government power is derived from the consent of the goverened. Collective action does work and always will, but it needs to be coordinated. If enough people in the UK stopped going to work, they could affect change pretty quickly I reckon.


> They have this power precisely because you have given up.

I've not given up, I just don't follow outdated methods of means to take back power. I use my wallet, I don't shop at amazon.

Stop being a consumer and supporting a ego who supports the wars, causes your protesting against. That would be the next greatest thing but we are too convenienced by these services.

Contradiction much? One where we would rather go and protest, head home and then go and support companies that do the opposite of what your fighting for. That is why protests are flawed. I'd rather be out on a Saturday picking up litter (like I do) than be at a protest and that's not just because I don't support the cause.

I just see the it as a old-fashioned method that doesn't apply to today’s new powers. You can't fight for power and then oppositely go and do the opposite nor can you fight when the power is to corrupt. Level the playing field is all you can do.

Innovate, create and throw it back in their faces and don't sell out when the FANG bites you with your cheque.

> Collective action does work and always will, but it needs to be coordinated.

Of course, but who wants to coordinate it. Why not yourself, adding to who wants to be put on a hit list? I get executed and then what, It all goes back to how it was. The Boeing whistleblowers ended up dead, any recourse from that?


Don’t you think maybe this attitude is part of the problem?


Not at all. We should be banding together to make the next best thing but people are lazy, but who can blame them? Easier to just press the big red NetFlix button and then order food on GrubEats.

I'm being realistic, in the capitalist world we live in unless you have assets, power your worth nothing.

You have no voice, no power, ever. Where's the futuristic project that saves the world? I'm sure the next JavaScript library posted on the front page of HN will be it.

I hate to be "woke" and break it to you that in this reality that your just a schmuck to an entity who's paying you to ensure that your powering their machine with bare benefits; if your lucky. Many homeless folk out there.

Heck, if you've got a job after this ML/AI fluff, you must be good at it. I'm 35 and above cynical at this point, I see no hope in this world from both people and those who run the show.

Take it as you wish, I wouldn't hold it against mother earth imploding herself because of the vile the homo sapiens race has become. Anyway, back to our designated cubicles within the walled gardens we opted for.


> I'm being realistic, in the capitalist world we live in unless you have assets your worth nothing. You have no voice, no power, ever.

Describe a better (on average) world and let's try it.


Less convenience, more care. More respect, less extreme actions. Effective penalities issued to those who break the rules.

A fine to a $multinational company isn't punishment. Strip their assets from.

More respect for one another would uphold so much more positivity in this world, but no we must judge and align folk in to groups. We are still divided by diversity. It's 2025 and we still have issues over someone being black, white or in-between.


I don't know how any of that would translate into a replacement for capitalism, except for capitalism with less plastic?


Capitalism isn't inherently bad. It works well with respect.

But in this day and age capitalism has gotten so rootless that nothing is done when the power in question abuses their power. There is no respect in today’s capitalism, upgrade respect and you'll have upgraded capitalism. we only go to war because of lack of respect.

Turn the page of the plastic age. I'm now rate limited so that's my digital protesting done for today. Not that anyone has taken side and protested with but would rather point how my ideology is wrong and not contributing to what they would do. But I'm sure you'll be buying your pickets off amazon and walking around town with them only to be tossed aside after the rally this Saturday for them to do something comfy either whether it being Netflix, gaming or porn.

But that's okay it's why I do litter picking out of civil respect; not enough. That way I can pick up the crap that people think they are fighting for as my power of fighting back. When you do go for a smoke, throw the butt on the street, spit on the pavement I'll be there scrubbing that too. Where's the respect? But, hey. People suck we know this. Companies suck more.

Can you threaten class-action lawsuits? If so: Donald, Elon, Jeff, America, UK, Israel, Russia, Microsoft, Google, Apple; you name it. If $entity has treated the world with hurt, you have no respect. Is that what you want to hear? Because that's true capitalism.

Sugar coated? Close your eyes and turn on the TV; especially the news. Pick a side and enjoy the slaughter. You'll be dead soon.


Sorry, I'm genuinely confused about what you're saying. If you think no one is worried about plastic except you I honestly don't know how you could possibly get that impression.


You keep bringing up plastic yet I've not mentioned. Maybe read my first post you replied to again and understand the world is fucked because of faults.

Turn the page of the plastic age? We all live in a plastic age. Everything is plastic your phone is too. Wars are plastic. Plastic is OLD. Turn the page.


You agree. You did mention plastic.


I do agree. I had edited my original topic post as I didn't like how I had phased my sentence. For sentence coherency; I do that.

Is this a problem?


I'm not surprised at all


Brit here. Yeah from my experience people don't care. Hardly anyone gets prosecuted and those who do have often done something bad.

Most day to day complaints are they don't prosecute enough, often related to the bastard that snatched your phone. We have approximately zero people sitting in jail for failing to decrypt and similar.

>This is a very obvious setup for future totalitarianism.

No it really isn't. If they are planning a totalitarian takeover they are being very sneaky about it. There is a strong anti totalitarianism tradition here including elections since 1265, writing books like 1984 and bombing nazis.


Brit here.

> Hardly anyone gets prosecuted and those who do have often done something bad.

Perhaps often they've done something bad, but sometimes they haven't, that's the point. Obviously this is wrong and you shouldn't be so passive about it.

> If they are planning a totalitarian takeover they are being very sneaky about it. There is a strong anti totalitarianism tradition here including elections since 1265, writing books like 1984 and bombing nazis.

I'd argue people in the UK today like to adopt the label of being anti-authoritarian and anti-totalitarian, but in reality most people here, including our politicians, quite like authoritarianism.

For example, people here often argue things like "I support free speech, but obviously insulting someone for their identity is wrong". So in the UK we apparently have free speech and I can apparently criticise religious people, but at the same time just this week someone in the UK was arrested for burning a bible.

You see this hypocrisy constantly in the UK... "I'm not an authoritarian, but smoking is bad". "I'm not an authoritarian, but you can't be saying that". "I'm not an authoritarian, but if you're worried about mass surveillance you probably have something to hide". "I"m not authoritarian, but you can't just let people have private data on an encrypted device which the government can't access".

The UK is very authoritarian these days, but unlike other parts of the world people here deny it while arguing in favour of more of it.

There's nothing necessarily wrong with being authoritarian and wanting the government to have more control either. Clearly many countries find this type of government appealing, but lets at least be honest about it. We don't want kids on social media. We don't want people smoking. We don't want people being about to call people names on Twitter. We don't want people burning religious texts. We don't want people being free from government surveillance.


It is true, the British do tend to submit to authority. Questioning authority is considered poor taste, bad manners.

This way is more serene and orderly than anarchy. But I suppose it bodes poorly for the individual liberties. On balance, there is value in aligning and orchestrating society. Too much individualism can turn into radicalisation through identity politics, as we’ve seen in the US in the last decade.

A large degree of societal cohesion is not all bad, in the context of the alternative. It’s not all good either, but it has served the British thus far. It’s serving some other countries like China, too, one can’t deny it.


Unfortunately, I suspect this is true. The British public does have an authoritarian bent, with a side helping of “rules are for other people, this couldn’t possibly impact me at some point”.


Today, maybe, even so it probably depends on who you ask.

The thing about giving your rights away is that it’s very difficult to get them back, and you never know who “they” are going to be in the future.


I'm not sure "giving your rights away" quite sums up the process. It's more as a Brit, and probably most of us, weren't even aware this bill was happening - the government passes many pages of dull legislation - but if it proves a pain you can always vote for whoever offers to repeal it. I suspect the encryption law vs Apple is going to result in the government backing down to some extent.

We did rebel over ID cards. Passed in 2006, repealed in 2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_Cards_Act_2006


Plenty of people have been jailed in the uk for not providing pins or passwords.


I've tried to explain the issues with the UK government's stance on digital privacy to my friends. The responses I get:

* I have nothing to hide, I don't care

* Oh come on, our government doesn't care what I'm up to

* The UK will never be totalitarian. I'm not scared of the government

* The UK civil service is incompetent and could never pull this off (fair point, although I worry about the safety of my personal data in the hands of such people)

Let's not forget we had a hard-left (Corbyn) socialist regime come close to power, whose cabinet members called for "direct action" against political opponents, just a few years ago.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/watch-john-mcdonnell-s-c...

I don't think people realise how quickly things could go wrong with these surveillance mechanisms in place, and spiteful, authoritarian politicians taking power.


> and spiteful, authoritarian politicians taking power.

Or spiteful, authoritarian non-politicians taking power, spreading misinformation, and censoring free speech:

https://www.techdirt.com/2025/02/03/musk-shows-us-what-actua...


Musk is a libertarian not an authoritarian.

His job is to reduce the size and power of government.

Authoritarians don’t do that. Libertarians do that. Two opposite ends of the spectrum.

“Misinformation” is a very subjective word, so I’m afraid you and I will have to agree to disagree that Musk is spreading misinformation.

Don’t believe everything you read about Musk in the mainstream media. Don’t forget that the media have a vested interest in denigrating Musk, because he’s their most significant competitor, and while X exists, and we’re able to hear directly from influential people, the legacy media is powerless to control the narrative.


> Musk is a libertarian not an authoritarian.

What, your claim is that libertarians suppress speech? Explain why Musk is censoring speech on Twitter.

Musk is authoritarian by nature. He always has been.

> “Misinformation” is a very subjective word

It isn't. It's lies, falsehoods, and untruths. Here are some of the lies Musk has spread:

- Lies about Paul Pelosi: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/30/business/musk-tweet-pelos...

- Lies about the recent LA fires: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/01/10/elon-mu...

- Lies about USAID: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250202-musk-brands-u...

- Lies about how good he is at video games: https://english.elpais.com/technology/2025-01-24/elon-musk-a...

And so on and so on. He never stops lying. He can't help himself. There's something wrong with him.

> Don’t forget that the media have a vested interest in denigrating Musk, because he’s their most significant competitor, and while X exists, and we’re able to hear directly from influential people, the legacy media is powerless to control the narrative.

This kind of conspiratorial thinking won't get you anywhere.

Carl Sagan worried this would happen to you (https://www.openculture.com/2025/02/carl-sagan-predicts-the-...). Sagan said, "I have a foreboding of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time — when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness"

And, sure enough, it has.


Quoting opinion pieces in rags like the Washington Post (owned by Musk's bitter personal rival Jeff Bezos) is not the way for us to come to a consensus on what is true (or not) about Musk.


That doesn't explain why Musk is suppressing speech on X. Why is Musk suppressing free speech on X?

Many outlets have reported on Musk's LA fires lies. Pick the one you like. Here are some:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnhyatt/2025/01/29/musks-x-pl...

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/01/los-angeles-fire...

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/los-angele...

https://www.mediaite.com/news/elon-musk-deletes-tweet-agreei...

https://www.wired.com/story/maga-blaming-dei-california-wild...

Alex Jones loved getting the endorsement from Musk.


We've been here before.

In 2023 there were terrible wildfires in Greece. The media immediately jumped on it and claimed climate change was responsible. Anyone who questioned the narrative was a "climate change denier" or "conspiracy theorist"

Then, later on, we discovered there had been 79 arrests for arson. Obviously, the media barely covered this. Only on free speech platforms like X was the truth revealed, and now, it is also documented on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Greece_wildfires

Today's "conspiracy theory" often turns out to be tomorrow's fact - so don't be so quick to judge Musk. He probably knows more about the wildfires than you do, given he runs a large network of hundreds of millions of users.


> Only on free speech platforms like X

Why is Musk suppressing free speech on X: https://www.techdirt.com/2025/02/03/musk-shows-us-what-actua...

> so don't be so quick to judge Musk.

He's got over a decade's worth of lies behind him now. When someone is of such weak character that they feel the need to lie about being good at video games then there's not much more to say.

> He probably knows more about the wildfires than you do

He doesn't. He endorses conspiracy theories.

Carl Sagan was right. You're no longer able to distinguish between what feels good and what's true.


Claiming "disinformation is subjective" and then cherry picking something to avoid all of it isn't even a credible attempt. Consensus isn't the objective, forwarding arguments that hold water is. You haven't disputed a mentioned single fact, so I take it you know they're indeed facts.


Chilling.


It seems like perfect case to make multi-container encryption as default. That is different data will be revealed using different key and there is no way of knowing how many containers there are in the blob of data and not possible to prove someone is hiding a key.


Not if the state can access your super secret containers while you access them with your software. Because state backdoor either in hardware or in OS level


You could try but you might find it/you get "disappeared" like Truecrypt.


It's incumbent on the prosecution to prove that you know the key they are claiming you are withholding. It is a defence to say you forgot it, or that the data is random. The prosecution would have to prove that you didn't forget it and that the data is not random.

In most cases it requires a court order as well.


> It is a defence to say you forgot it,

Do you have a source for that assertion?


It's only an offence if you "knowingly fail" to provide it - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/23/section/53

s3 makes it clear that if you plausibly claim you have forgotten it, then the prosecution must prove this is not the case (i.e. you still know it) beyond reasonable doubt.


Are you proposing to drown mercy and forgiveness in bureaucracy?

Corruption is a valid point generally. And this question can be raised when discussing pardon for president's family. But is this point valid for this specific case, for the man who already spent 11 years in prison and has no relation to the president?


I'm only in my 40s and I have already seen Presidents and Governors pardon people that absolutely shouldn't have been pardoned.


Yes. And this is the reason ScyllaDB exists


> Lao Tzu teaches: the best fighter is never angry. More important than the blow is knowing when to strike

Seems like a fake citation https://www.taoistic.com/fake-laotzu-quotes/fake-laotzu-quot...


The person (Denpok) who quotes it is a charlatan posing as a guru, which makes the fake citation fitting.


Yeah, the Lao Tzu I know advises people to be simple, like uncarved blocks of wood.


I would like to work with you. Asking searchable things may be considered disrespectful to one's time


Given the rapidly declining quality of search results, and the subtle hallucinations of LLM on advanced topics, I think that attitude is outdated.

We’ve gone backwards in terms of the internet being reliable. Human experience is still useful.


seems like a subtle ad for a company mentioned in the first paragraph. would be funny to know if the whole post is written by a LLM


The account seems legitimate though, long post and comment history with a clear set of specific interests and personal views. Some of which appear to be related to working in video/graphics. If this is astroturfing, it's beyond expert level.


Also this comment seems legit

"In local news there is a booth producer (someone who builds the show in a software like ENPS before the show and who talks in the ears of the talents and queues them during the show) then there is a technical director (the person who uses those huge boards with all the buttons to bring up supers and chyrons and switch between cameras and video channels when packages or soundbites play). Then there’s the audio operator who opens and closes faders in synchronicity with the director so they make sure anchors can talk to each other during sound bites or packages without having their mic on air, play music when we fade to commercials, play franchise music, play stinger sounds, they also do mic checks and work to establish connection with reporters backpacks -which are what we call the antennas they use to signal back to the stations for live coverage. All of these positions are being automated besides the booth producer. Which the booth producer is also just a producer, -which is someone who works in the newsroom writing stories and then booth produces the show. They will be the only one in the control room now and will just be there to speak in the ear of the on air talents and tell reporters in the field when to be ready for their shot. Everything else is being automated with AI."

https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1guhsm4/well_this_...


Humans don't even value themselves. The world seems ripe for an AI takeover imo


OP even gave his LinkedIn though.


The company homepage also seems a bit suss. Single page, saying very little.


What you mean here is actually deps pinning + vendoring. It's way out of scope of basic CI concept.


Thank you for the hint about the business phone registered in a call redirect service.


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