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Most crime is conducted in fiat money.


Doesn't change the fact stated by GP tho.

Fiat money, unlike crypto, have lots of non-criminal uses.


Crypto has all the same use cases it's just that fiat is better at everything so long as the thing is blessed by the government

Given a government reflecting the will of the people, anything you need crypto for is de facto antisocial behavior

i think it's nice to have a plan B for when the governments idea of criminal doesn't line up with my own so much


Only problem is, fiat is better at most of the "good-natured" crime too.

The only application I can even think of where cryptocurrency is actually better than fiat is ransomware. Actually I suppose any kind of ransom payment might benefit from using crypto, as there's no risky physical cash handover for police to intercept. Seems like it could be equally useful for kidnappers as ransomware hackers.

But I can't think of single non-ransom transaction where fiat isn't better than crypto. Legal or otherwise.

For example when buying illicit substances, I don't see why I would want to pay extra to make the transaction traceable and public?


> i think it's nice to have a plan B for when the governments idea of criminal doesn't line up with my own

You don’t think they’ll declare crypto illegal? Or owning it? Or using it?


Without incriminating myself too much, uh, let's just say I've seen considerable volumes of illegal business conducted with physical fiat cash, to a degree that likely would have been more difficult with crypto


> i think it's nice to have a plan B for when the governments idea of criminal doesn't line up with my own so much

... like now?


…or ‘08 capital controls and being prevented from withdrawing your own funds from your own bank account as happened in Greece back then.


Most legitimate business is conducted via fiat money.


So? Are you suggesting banning all money?

Crypto has uniquely allowed the huge uptick in ransomware.

Before they had to figure out some way to get paid using the banking system without getting caught. These days maybe they would be asking for $50 million in iTunes gift cards, I don’t know. But it was a hurdle.

Once Cryptocurrencies started to get well known ransomware embraced it incredibly strongly. A far far more anonymous payment method that any random company or person could pay through?

Seriously. https://static.wixstatic.com/media/9e72ec_52b812bb082b4fdebd...

You think that’s just a coincidence? Crypto is a huge driver for the ransomware industry.


How does your chart show it increasing with crypto? Bitcoin came out in 2009 and ethereum in 2015, and adoption was far before 2020.


Seems I forgot the other chart.

https://jdsupra-html-images.s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/85dd2...

BC was very esoteric in 2010 or 2012. I imagine it would have been impossible for average businesses to actually get the crypto to pay with.

By ~2016 that was far easier for your average joe.


That is such a fallacious argument that crypto bros love to trot out. If you look at the ratio of crime to total transaction, then crime makes up a tiny portion of what is happening in real money. Meanwhile, the situation in crypto is the other way around: Actually useful transactions are almost negligible, while >99% of what is happening is speculation, gambling, and crime. If you could shut down the entire crypto ecosystem, literally nothing of value would be lost.


I think you underestimate how much speculation, gambling and crime happens in the fiat ecosystem. The forex, just to name one thing, is $7.5T exchanged a day.

In comparison, it’s estimated that Americans spend about $10T per year. I don’t have the numbers worldwide but America is a big piece of the cake.

So, speculation is vastly higher than regular spending, even for “regular money”.


Do you really not understand that the forex market has several real use cases and serves an actual purpose. Unlike crypto, it doesn't primarily or solely exist to facility crime and speculation. If you somehow shut down the forex trade, the global economy would experience severe disruptions. If you shut down crypto, nobody in the real economy would even notice.


crypto is a kind of live estimate of the frustration with government restrictions on using one’s own property. that in itself seems to have some social value.

in the US, banks will question you if you try to withdraw your own cash from your own bank account past a certain limit set decades ago and never adjusted while the dollar continues to lose value.


Maybe they were on a slight up slope. If the headlights were auto leveling it will fix many of the issues people complain about.


Yeah quite possibly actually, I did think at the time if they were angled down slightly, it wouldn't be half as bad. So that checks out. But does show there needs to be some kind of solution for uneven situations like that


Did he close his position or just shutdown the fund?


He shut down the whole fund. There was a press release about it a few days ago.


If you say person X thought Y was true, ask yourself if Y was true would you accept it? If the answer is no you are not ready for this kind of discussion.

As for whether it's true or not, let's just say we don't know for sure because scientists either are not allowed or don't want to research this question.


Gamblers know the odds are stacked against them yet they end up stuck in a psychological prison within their own brain that they can't escape from even if they realize what they do is harmful.

Maybe a better law: check id, you are not allowed to take from any gambler more than 10 bets a year and no bet can be over 1k.

For big gamblers, we can have "qualified gamblers" rules like we do for qualified investors.

Funny how we don't let average people invest in some stuff but we let them gamble.

For offshore gambling pursue them aggressively if they serve US clients.


>For big gamblers, we can have "qualified gamblers" rules like we do for qualified investors.

This is actually a take I haven't seen elsewhere. Yes, we do protect investors at least marginally better (lots of people still get fleeced with little recourse, unfortunately) but conceptually, this is a very interesting idea.

The fact that gambling exists on a loophole of being "for entertainment purposes only"[0] isn't a good enough distinction to me.

[0]: This is a brief one sentence summary of it. There's actually a bit of nuance involved depending on a number of factors, but essentially the core presume rests on some version of this.


His take isn't new. It is deployed in part in the UK. Effectively, gambling companies adopt the role of the state conducting a full audit into your personal circumstances, income, assets, bank statement, utility bills to work out whether you can gamble.

I would hope that I don't need to explain why this isn't a good idea. But the one you may not have thought of: gambling companies love this because small companies are unable to audit, margins in the sector collapsed when activity moved online, that has stopped AND they are able to target customers who they don't want to deal with, before these rules it was difficult to identify customers who would take their money, now they have your passport, your address, your bank statements, they know where your money comes from (professional gamblers can still use beards but in the UK, students used to be very popular beards...that has stopped, regulators have also brought in rules to prevent beards being used as part of the changes above...the "neoliberal" US doesn't have rules anywhere close to this, it is complete madness).


There's a difference here between the concept and implementation though.

I agree, giving up that much information to a third party, opens too many risks for me, and I don't want it to be standard.

However, I'm sure there is some middle ground here that isn't so violating to your privacy. Like mentioned before, having a default limit that can only be surpassed if you're willing to go through some form of qualification. The limit can be set in place without any audit required, if its low enough.


Why go through all this effort just to enable an industry that does nothing but take a profit off of random chance?

Just fucking ban it.

Decriminalize low value bets between average people maybe but there's zero reason we need a gambling industry.

It is impossible for this industry to behave. Just kill it.

Your average Fent dealer isn't this predatory FFS


Gamblers know the odds are stacked against them and still gamble...because it is fun.

You realise that people waste their money on things that are significantly less understandable than gambling. Do you see someone driving a Ferrari and seethe with rage because Ferrari doesn't run a "qualified driver" program?


Ferrari cars hold their value pretty well if you buy them slightly used.

Either way, Ferrari is selling cars. Not dreams of riches.


That's one way to nerf them, force them to fight in situations they would never find themselves in.

In real life, if they can't neutralize the threat in BVR they just turn around and run before getting in range.

Their stealth allows them to get the enemy in range before the enemy has them in range. It's like a boxer with a long reach: jab and move.


Every year new engineers and enthusiasts need to be exposed to cutting edge technologies through hands-on introductions like these.


Didn't a hedge fund publish data encrypted with homomorphic encryption to run an open competition to see how can build the best trading AI. The encryption allow them to keep the sensitive data private.


How much money he had when he was caught? How much you profited usually makes a difference in sentencing.


The plea deal includes forfeiting US$19 million.


What about brain development and general intelligence. Knowledge will always have a value, or else we become slaves to the machine.


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