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It is from a time when we were used to remember phone numbers, and where we shared our phone numbers to keep in touch (calls, sms). ICQ directly picked on that and it was just another „phone number“.

Unfortunately I only remember the first half of mine after so many years. In the age of smartphones, at least my brain degenerated to not be able to recall more than a handful of important phone numbers.


I still remember the phone number I had from when I was 10-19, but I can't remember my sons or my mums phone numbers, or indeed any numbers I've had or used since I was 19 other than my current number that I got in my 30's. Basically, the moment I got my first cellphone in '95 or so, I stopped learning phone numbers, other than remembering my current number because I give it out regularly.

But also, I think, because my parents drilled that old number into me, because remembering it was a "lifeline".


I made a point to memorize my wife's and my parents' cell numbers, just in case I'm ever in a situation where I don't have a phone and need to reach them (like if I got robbed or something).


It's a sensible thing to do, but I have so many ways to get at online services where I can reach them that it hasn't felt pressing - if I'm in a situation where the only phone I can get hold of isn't a smartphone it sounds more like a 999 or nearest consulate kind of situation... But you're right it'd probably be worth doing anyway.


So you get robbed (or something), and you're physically OK but have no phone and no wallet.

You find a phone to use, however you do that, and dial the local emergency number (0118 999 881 999 119 725...3), and maybe they show up and take a report.

And then they leave.

Now, you're in the same situation you were in before (no phone, no wallet) -- nothing has really changed.

What happens next? What's your next move?


I don't think I've ever traveled anywhere where I'd be concerned I would be unable to get at an internet connection long enough to get at my info, including copies of all my documents, or would be unable to find help to arrange transport back to my home or my hotel where I'd have other means. It's feels like a contrived scenario if you travel primarily in developed countries, and mostly urban areas. If I were going somewhere in the middle of nowhere, or a third world country where I'd be concerned about more likely to be targeted, maybe. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but having grown up before cellphones and with no expectation of having easy access to a phone, this obsession with being able to easily contact someone just is very foreign to me still.


> where I'd be concerned I would be unable to get at an internet connection long enough to get at my info, including copies of all my documents, or would be unable to find help to arrange transport back to my home or my hotel where I'd have other means.

I don't even know where to begin getting copies of "all of my documents" online as a native US-born citizen.

> It's feels like a contrived scenario if you travel primarily in developed countries, and mostly urban areas. If I were going somewhere in the middle of nowhere, or a third world country where I'd be concerned about more likely to be targeted, maybe.

I got robbed and beat up walking back from the store in a very clean, well-lit area of a growing city of ~45,000 once -- in Ohio, of all places. I didn't consider myself a target then, and I don't consider myself a target now. But it happened anyway, and if it can happen to me in that seemingly-safe environment, then it can probably happen to anyone else in any other environment.

> I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but having grown up before cellphones and with no expectation of having easy access to a phone, this obsession with being able to easily contact someone just is very foreign to me still.

I'm not saying that your ideas don't have any merit. I also grew up before cell phones and was well into adulthood before they became common.

But I am saying these seem a lot of mental gymnastics to perform in justification of avoidance of the positively arduous and herculean task of...simply committing the phone number for a resourceful friend to memory.

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And why? Well, because friends are awesome.

"Hey, I'm in San Francisco. I don't have my phone or my wallet. No, no, I'm OK -- I'll tell you about it later. Yeah, some money would help right now. Sure, I can call you back in an hour. Thanks man."

...and soon enough, that resourceful friend will have that sorted well-enough for me that I can at least buy some food somewhere and start getting back towards whatever "normal" is, just as I would do for them.


You miss the point - I have copies of everything I need easily reachable anywhere I can get online.

And if beaten up and robbed, it just seems inconceivable to me that if I can get to a phone to get help, I can't also subsequently get online.

It's not a lot of mental gymnastics - this discussion is the majority of the time I've spent on this in a lifetime. I just don't live in fear of anything like that happening. If I'm ever wrong, then so be it - there are far more risks far more worth caring about to me.


I mean, you do you.

You're obviously free to avoid remembering anyone's phone number for the rest of your existence, and it certainly does not behoove me to attempt to saddle you with such a profound and monumentally exhausting mental debt.


It's weird that I can't remember my phone number from that time

But the ICQ number has stuck with me


Strangely enough, I don't remember my phone number at that time, but I do remember my ICQ#


Playing around with a hex based game myself, the bookmark to the Hexagonal Grid is a constant companion over the years. It was updated slightly over the years with some visual cues. Amazing presentation, and so great to learn.


If it goes to the direction of Microsoft Copilot, then you can check out the recent announcement. Microsoft currently estimates that 30/user/month is a good list price to get „ChatGPT with all your business context“ to your employees.

https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2023/07/18/furthering-our-a...


When downloading Berkeley Mono, you can choose some configurations and I love the slashed 7 (as well as zero). Something feels off to me with the line but overall it’s fun to have in a font.


And in some/many jurisdictions, your ISP is more regulated by your local government (also in regards to data protection) than cloudflare who has no obligation to you.


In parallel, there is a quite different point of view and after the last two dramas (Safe Harbor, Privacy Shield), the outcome is quite predictable in my opinion.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36677578

Edit: of course for the next 1-3 years, compliance departments in the EU can declare themselves not guilty and business will continue as usual.


i recently spent year+ on managing gdpr compliance implementation in company where I work (multinational *aaS). Our current stance that we will continue as usual, where usual been that there is no new agreement. Because breaking down all gdpr compliance is easy but to restore it to compliant state is hard.


> The part of the cookie law that’s dumb is that it’s too narrowly scoped and should apply to all tracking technologies and techniques, for whichever purposes and vendors are or aren’t okay with the user.

A recent definition of the German authorities clarifies that with „cookies“, they don’t interpret it narrowly as the specific browser technology but any kind of beacon or mechanism for tracking[0]:

> Gemeint ist damit beispielsweise der Einsatz von Cookies und anderen Technologien wie LocalStorage, Web Storage, das Auslesen von Werbe- und Geräte-IDs, Seriennummern, aber auch der Einsatz von ETags oder TLS-Session-IDs zum Zwecke des Trackings, Fingerprinting (z.B. durch das Auslesen von installierten Schriften oder Anwendungen) und vieles mehr. Der Einfachheit halber wird das im Folgenden i.d.R. unter dem verkürzenden Begriff „Cookies“ zusammengefasst.

They name as explicit examples not only cookies but LocalStorage, Web Storage, reading of any kind of serial numbers, ETags, TLS Session IDs (if used for tracking), and any other method for fingerprinting such as font profiling.

[0] https://www.baden-wuerttemberg.datenschutz.de/faq-zu-cookies...


> A recent definition of the German authorities clarifies that with „cookies“, they don’t interpret it narrowly as the specific browser technology but any kind of beacon or mechanism for tracking[:] LocalStorage, Web Storage, reading of any kind of serial numbers, ETags, TLS Session IDs (if used for tracking), and any other method for fingerprinting such as font profiling.

To be fair, even the original wording[1] isn’t specific to cookies, only to client-side storage or code—which is also not the precise cause of the problem, but includes all the things you’ve listed:

> (24) Terminal equipment of users of electronic communications networks and any information stored on such equipment are part of the private sphere of the users requiring protection under the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms. So-called spyware, web bugs, hidden identifiers and other similar devices can enter the user's terminal without their knowledge in order to gain access to information, to store hidden information or to trace the activities of the user and may seriously intrude upon the privacy of these users. The use of such devices should be allowed only for legitimate purposes, with the knowledge of the users concerned.

> (25) However, such devices, for instance so-called "cookies", can be a legitimate and useful tool, for example, in analysing the effectiveness of website design and advertising, and in verifying the identity of users engaged in on-line transactions. [...] Access to specific website content may still be made conditional on the well-informed acceptance of a cookie or similar device, if it is used for a legitimate purpose.

(Emphasis mine.)

Interesting that this also uses the phrase “legitimate purpose”, but in a much broader sense to what the GDPR will eventually use. I did not realize that.

[1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX...


That’s a good approach! I hope it becomes accepted across the EU. Still, it does seem to restrict the applicability of the ePrivacy Directive (aka the cookie law) to ones which use storage on the end user’s device, based on how that law was worded. The GDPR can of course still apply to other forms of tracking as long as they involve processing personal data.


What degree of „searchable“ are you missing from apropos?

https://man.openbsd.org/apropos.1


All of the basics of anything google-like: typo-friendliness with word forms and phrases, links to source, formatting of output, GUI, or not spamming the output with a dozen of lines of warnings that some man page files are missing.

Then a bunch more degrees that I could know about if the tool were more usable


Yes.

I mostly use man pages when I already basically know the program and need to do specific thing.

Even then I don't use man itself but usually a webpage of the manfile because of UX.


That was Civ 1. I think they dropped it in Civ 2.

Edit: actually not sure. In Civ 1 you build up your palace, not the throne room per se.


It definitely was there in Civ 2, that's the only Civ I've played and I remember the throne room well.


Vanilla Civ 2 had the throne room, but it was removed in the Test of Time version.


You absolutely can and if you know that you don’t install software that needs it, there is no reason to install X during installation.


That's not the answer I got on their IRC a few years back.


"They" don't have an "IRC". #openbsd on Freenode/Libera is an unofficial venue. The channel isn't endorsed by the project or the foundation. In some moments you run into friendly people, and in other moments you run into angry people. It's not an OpenBSD thing. As someone who has been a regular in #openbsd for some 20 years I will assure that it's mostly friendly and helpful.


So, a random person on #openbsd once said you to RTFM and you are still salty a few years after? My (also anecdotal) experience with the openbsd community is very positive, so here's that.


I wouldn't waste a second writing about it if it happened only once.


#openbsd on Libera is unofficial last time I checked. The only official communication channel would be misc@ for a question such as this.


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