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Astronomer here, we are thinking about doing interferometers in space[1,2], but it won't be a catch-all for everything. One reason is that the instrumentation is equally as important as the telescope optics itself, and it's non-trivial to have your swarm of satellites both collect light, but also do science experiments with the light. One thing we are thinking of is to fly more proto-typing missions to get the technology readiness of various components to mature stages before assembling it all together for the real thing (I would say we did not do this as well for JWST).

[1]: https://www.life-space-mission.com/ [2]: https://lisa.nasa.gov/


Is there any sense in using internet providing sattelites for astronomy? Like if starlink published it's noise data from all sattelites in realtime could it be used as one huge radiotelescope?


Probably pretty difficult to find too many compelling cases. The bands starlink transmits in are designated communication bands, so interference from other satellites is going to be so high that it will drown out any signals. There are astronomers working on removing this foreground, but it's really difficult! It's actually becoming quite a problem in radio astronomy with the amount of the electromagnetic spectrum that is quiet enough for science.


Note that in these images, the planets are unresolved. They are point sources. Point sources span multiple pixels due to the sampling theorem.


And this is the program that will study this system: https://www.stsci.edu/jwst/science-execution/program-informa...


Adaptive optics is really only effective in the infrared. And really only in the near-infrared, as past 5 microns, we can't really see through the atmosphere. In the visible, ground-based can't match space observatories (in the visible, the atmospheric turbulence is way harder to correct for).


> In the visible, ground-based can't match space observatories (in the visible, the atmospheric turbulence is way harder to correct for).

The image this article is about is mostly in the optical (MUSE only goes from 465nm to 930nm; and the synthetic filters used in the MUSE image [4] seem to be quite close to the used HST filters).

> And really only in the near-infrared, as past 5 microns, we can't really see through the atmosphere.

Not quite true [1] (at least if only considering absorption), it's just that the background becomes more and more of a problem (both continuum and narrow emission lines), and one has less nicely defined windows of transmission and lots of strongly variable absorption lines (picking dry places for the telescopes and selecting nights with low water vapour column densities helps). At the VLT for example there is VISIR [2], which does mid-IR imaging and spectroscopy.

Of course the sensitivty from the ground is much lower than from space or somewhere in between (for example there is SOFIA [3] which is a 2.5m telescope on an airplance) and some bands of interest are indeed absorbed. But there are indeed projects that involve mid-IR observations that can be done from the ground.

[1] https://www.gemini.edu/sciops/telescopes-and-sites/observing... [2] http://www.eso.org/sci/facilities/paranal/instruments/visir/... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_Observatory_for_... [4] https://www.eso.org/public/unitedkingdom/images/eso1824c/


Ah my bad, I mean that in the visible, you can't reach the diffraction limit with AO like you can in the near infrared. Certainly impressive matching HST from the ground.

I don't think past 5 microns there's been a lot of science done from the ground (not counting SOFIA). Practically, I think everyone is waiting for JWST. A lot of the interesting molecular lines also get absorbed by the Earth's atmosphere.


It's hard to measure absolute water abundances (it requires a lot of assumptions and extrapolating). This is a relative comparison of atmospheric water. We don't have relative water abundances for a lot of planets, so it's on the higher end, but we don't really know (maybe some other planets' water are hidden behind clouds).


That makes me think it’s a pretty substantive amount of water. If we’re getting 3x the spike we see for a planet in our own solar system in a planet lys away then actual content should be much more (due to signal/noise? Just guessing though)


It's not the absolute value of the signal. What they're measuring the amount of water compared to hydrogen.


It will be very tough with JWST. Many of the biosignatures are small features, and not so easily detected. There's only a handful of planets for which this might be close to possible.


We've also been observing the universe using neutrinos (generated by the weak force). In fact, there have even been one neutrino event linked to a possible astrophysical source[1], but with less certainty than this gravitational wave/EM detection.

[1]: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/nasas-fermi-telesc...


Supernovae neutrinos have been detected for 30 years, it's not just one event.


Quite possibly I think. This is both confirmation that neutron star mergers do indeed exist and create kilonova, and the first detection of an astronomical event with both gravitational waves and light. Nobel prize is only limited to three people though, so it's unclear who they would give it to, given there are thousands of people that contributed to this.


Not involved in this, I'm guessing this is how it goes: there are algorithms that automatically register the image that was just taken, diff it with a reference image of the sky from before, and if there's a significant difference that passes some false positive tests, then there's some notification for human intervention.

Indeed there could be events we are missing right now. Astronomers are building instruments that have larger fields of view (e.g., LSST), so that they can scan the sky ever few days.


This title is a bit imprecise. They detected four planets with lower bound on their masses to be down to 1.7 Earth masses. Because these planets don't transit, there are no direct measurements from their radius. They can use mass-radius relations to infer the radius of these planets, but the key finding is their masses (actually lower bounds on their masses).


Can you say they _don't_ transit? They say the planets were detected by analyzing star wobbles, which doesn't necessarily mean that the planets don't transit, just that it's not how they were detected.


I guess you're right. I know there aren't any observed transits, but I also don't know what the current constraints from monitoring the star's brightness for transit is (the star is actually so bright that it becomes hard to monitor for planet transits).

However, we have a good prior on the inclination of these planets, because we know the inclination of the dust disk around the star (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/tau-ceti-s-dust-b...), and it is likely the planets are at a similar inclination. Because the disk isn't edge on, the planets also likely aren't, and won't transit.


Since they are watching the star wobble, they probably have exact inclinations.


"Wobble" is perhaps a imprecise term. What is actually measured is the doppler shift of a spectral line in the star. In other words, you are measuring the velocity of the star in the radial direction (towards and away from the Earth). By measuring how the velocity changes over time, you can get a orbital period for the planet. By measuring the magnitude of the velocity change, you can get a lower bound on the mass of the planet. It is only a lower bound as depending on the orbital inclination, some of the movement will be in the perpendicular direction (back and forth on the sky). We are unable to measure this movement precisely enough to detect (in most cases).


Seems like it would have to be. If you've worked out from the wobble what the mass and orbit are it would stand to reason you've either calculated or at least stated an assumption regarding the inclination.


You can put a lower bound on both, but inclination introduces an unknown upper bound.


But shouldn't they have _some_ upper bound ? I guess for example that it's unlikely they are larger than 100 Earth masses since they call them Earth-sized.


Measuring the star wobble (i.e. doppler shift) doesn't give inclinations.


Well it doesn't transit from our point of view, so yes, I think he can say that as the observer.

"In astronomy, a transit or astronomical transit is the phenomenon of at least one celestial body appearing to move across the face of another celestial body, hiding a small part of it, as seen by an observer at some particular vantage point."[0]

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_(astronomy)


I understand that. I guess I don't know how small we can reliably view transits. We can certainly see large planet transits. Perhaps planets of this size are too small to view at this distance/ with this star type with our current technology. Just because we haven't observed a transit doesn't mean the transit isn't happening. But again, I don't really know this specific circumstance.


Yeah, but the Kepler observatory has looked for exoplanet transits for many years now and found over 1000.

You have to assume it has examined this close neighbor thoroughly.


Actually this star is not in the Kepler Field, and it is also too bright for Kepler. Even most ground based telescopes looking for transits probably haven't bothered looking at it, due to its brightness.


Thanks, I had no idea Kepler was under these constraints.

I'd expect it's easier to measure at the brighter stars. Maybe calibrating the instrument for the weaker stars makes it "overload" for a really bright ones?


You're in for a treat, "Kepler 2.0" launches next year: https://tess.gsfc.nasa.gov/overview.html


Kepler has only focused on two tiny patches of the sky in its lifetime IIRC.


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