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Thanks for the feedback! I rephrased the conclusion :)


Thanks! I just pushed an update to fix that :)


I think there would still be a supply for refurbished products (maybe a bit less this time with the shortages) – as Apple cannot sell open-boxes or returned products as new.


Bingo - I’m likely planning on returning my 16” for a 14”. After using the M1 air for the past year, the 16” just feels too big.

But even with a 14 day return policy, Apple cant just turn around and sell this as new. I have seen a few open box items at Best Buy though, usually discounted ~$100 or so.


Generally it's around 2-weeks from the "announcement date" and "order date"?


This would be hard to track when you see the scale of Apple's logistics!


That was the case of the the first Macbook Air M1 (which was super popular): https://www.refurb.me/stats/macbook-air/macbook-air-13.3-inc...

106 days exactly since its first release.

The first batch would be more for people who bought it to review it and return it.


Not All Apple refurbished products are created equal though.

Apple have literally the BEST condition you can expect on any refurbished product on the market. But all other refurbishers (Gazelle, Mac of All trades, Amazon Warehouse, Decluttr...) grade them in a scale (A, B, C) based on their cosmetic condition and add a year warranty as well.


>> Not All Apple refurbished products are created equal though.

You're comparing 'refurbished Apple products' with 'Apple refurbished products'

Two very different things.


Apple is only using this vocabulary: "Apple Certified Refurbished" on their store


That was exactly my pain point back in 2007 when I wanted to get a specific configuration for the retina Macbook Pro. That's why I built RefurbMe as a comparison and monitoring service :)


Weren't the Retina displays for Macbooks released in 2012?


Indeed, my bad – I meant the first generation of the Macbook Pro (2006 Aluminum model). The retina came later in 2012.


They were. I still have one that I bought when they were released. Well, just a bit after they were released. At WWDC that year, the SF Apple Store sold out of them before I could get there after the announcement.


That first retina MBP ended up lasting me from 2012 until last year when I finally had to replace it. What a great computer.


Mine is still cranking, though it's recently relegated to couch duty as I use the 2019 iMac for WFH heavy lifting these days. I put a $29 upgraded WiFi module in it so that my watch will unlock it (and enables a bunch of other Bonjour functionality), but it otherwise just keeps humming along. I'm wondering if it isn't the computer I've kept and regularly used more than any other in the forty years since my first one.


You may wish to prefix "Show HN: " to your title.


Just updated that. Thanks!


It seems that even 3-4 lines was long... Did you tracked the open and click rates?


Open rate is tracked, around 40% but the reply rate is dismal. So it must be content and a clear lack of CTA.


We combined different approaches to make it work:

First, inspecting all network requests that are happening on the web client. That helped to inspect all requests made to read a page and edit content (a lot of data is transiting, maybe that's why it's slow on the startup...).

And then I realized there were few existing open-source projects that already done that (https://github.com/kjk/notionapi and https://github.com/jamalex/notion-py), but there were lacking an HTTP API endpoint so that we can easily plug them that to Zapier/Integromat or a Webhook.

These two repo didn't had a way to convert a Markdown to a Notion content - which would make it complicated to know every type of blocks that makes a Notion page.

Finally you needed to be tech-savvy to be able to deploy the open-source projects and there wasn't any simple integration SaaS out there – so it was limiting a large section of people who use Notion extensively, and are familiar with automation tools.


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