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If I’m given exciting work to do, and management reduces beurocracies and other blockers, I’ll work 60, 70, 80 hour weeks. If my job is as a glorified paper pusher because of bad procrssses/management I won’t.

It’s a leaders job to motivate people to work those hours, and create an environment where it is worthwhile, to just say “work more” sounds like he thinks management doesn’t have a role to play.

In fact almost definition ally, if you’re people aren’t working enough, that’s a management failure. So who is he telling?


Sure, but you start from somewhere. Part of that leadership and creating that environment is signaling and setting expectations. To let the people know what kind of team it is going to be and have them self-select, especially if the starting point is default Google rest-and-vest.


Can you explain more about being bamboozled? Bamboozled about what? Bush tried to convince us that Iraq was creating WMD’s when they weren’t, but left and right were pretty united at the time as a reaction to 9/11, like it wasn’t just the right that was bamboozled, it was bipartisan.

Left and right were pretty united in defense of Ukraine until Trump came along, but what’s the lie they were trying to convince us of. That Russia started the war when really Ukraine did?

Trump said that the other day, but if he really believes it, why doesn’t he seem to stand behind it?

I haven’t heard a clear confident description of what the lie is???


> explain more about being bamboozled

Russia invaded and annexed part of Ukraine in 2014, and util 2022 approx 0% of left leaning voters could tell you what are ukrainian national colors are. There was a phenomenal propaganda effort to mass market that conflict to that demographic, between social media (russian warship, ghost of kiev etc) and on the ground efforts - all those blue and yellow ribbons worn by flyover state visitors in dc circa may 2022 didn't materialize out of thin air. The amount of emotional messaging to bracket discourse - putin is a murderer, criminal, dictator blah blah - should clue you in on the fact youre being told a stance. Should we cut and run or stay the course?

You literally could see that even earlier today with Zelinskiy going outwith pure emotional framing (putin hates ukrainians), which is literally the same exact black/white good/bad device that Bush used with "they hate us for our freedom".


> The amount of emotional messaging to bracket discourse - putin is a murderer, criminal, dictator blah blah - should clue you in on the fact youre being told a stance.

Yes, it’s been good PR on their side, but you specifically said bamboozled. Where are they lying?


The past three years we have been with propaganda from both sides of this conflict. It’s a war. To point to one side and say that’s the side that’s lying is just more propaganda, it’s not a serious breakdown.


Literally in this case meaning staring at a spirograph blocking your view of the screen, I suppose, because he never said that once. Trump did accuse Zelenskyy of having hatred for Putin, and didn't get much of a response, but that's not quite the same. What he did say was that Vance's characterization of Ukraine's path as warmongering was at the very least misleading if not much worse. He did this by pointing to a decade's worth of ceasefires that were brokered by the US and Europe that Russia broke with impunity, and held Trump and Vance's feet to the fire about bucking that trend. Pretty wild that you see that as emotional framing, and not the literal shitfit of a response it elicited from a head of state and his deputy.


Yes, it was far too convenient, so we ignored the problem of Russia's imperialism for far too long. Then we didn't.


Simple question:

Does Russia owning more of Ukraine further the interests of the United States, European states, and/or NATO?


So this is true, and if I piece apart what you’re saying, it’s that you think that liberal propaganda has turned people away from MAGA, convincing liberals of Trump’s inherent malevolence.

But I have a different theory. I think that in this case, the propagandists are trying to convince the other of their own inherent malevolence.

Not to say liberal media doesn’t try to do this, but let’s be honest? Trump is a world’s better marketer than the folks at MSNBC.

And I think he thinks it is useful to be so extreme that it also creates that divisiveness. Like as objectively as I try to look at Trump, I think he intentionally obfuscates his intentions to increase divisiveness.


Trump is a world’s better marketer than the folks at MSNBC.

No, stupid people are easier to herd. That's all there is to it.

Remember that Trump only turned to the Republican party after trying everything else first.


What a great observation, maybe he can convince someone in Government to do something about it.


I'm sure this is a very narrow use-case, but I've kinda wanted CI/CD for generating Ableton Live Albums


This is a bit flippant, but maybe hacker/startup culture just moved from being applied to tech to being applied to politics? It seems like the technofeudalism promoted by some could apply a similar ethos.


Hacker culture and startup culture are two entirely different things, with entirely different worldviews. The overlap in the Venn diagram isn't as large as many think.


I don't think that we're this far gone yet, but is there a chance the US sides with Putin in this case? I think it would be risky, and I don't _think_ Trump's base would go for it, but it does feel like the long term goal is to try to sanitize the idea of a shift in the geopolitical order to ally America with Russia instead of with Europe.


trump and the republicans must really be stupid to trade NATO for russia, while leaving an opening for china to side with europe. If US ditches europe, india/SK/JP and the rest of asia will soon reciprocate.

All this so that US sides with a bankrupt cleptocracy and dictatorship. 1000iq move, I guess.


Europe is not allowed to have its own foreign policy, let alone "side with China." All of those US military bases are there for a reason.


…for now. With the US acting in concert with Russia against Europe’s interest, it’s time for Europe to reconsider whether those bases should stay.


Europe has no say in the matter, short of France using its nukes.


Unless Trump wants to start WW3 the US won't be able to do anything, and even if he did start WW3, Europe would be able to destroy those bases.

The whole point of them was to give the US influence while improving US security. Given Europe can't trust Trump will come to their aid, they won't give the US as much influence over Europe.



Have you ever wondered why the US is able to spend so much on its military? Ever wondered why the US keeps on printing the dollar that's not backed by any gold reserve and other nations still give you real things such as food, resources, goods in exchange for it?

Here's a hint! It's your military. To put it bluntly, European nations and other US allies pretend the dollar has actual value and the US in turn guarantees security and backs the world order based on the rule of law.

Looks like the US is looking to pull out of its end of the deal. That's fair enough, being the world's policeman is sure a heavy burden to carry. I just don't see many people recognizing the implications for the US economy.


No argument from me. I'm not happy that Europe is in this position, I just wish that Europeans were aware of it.


"Is not allowed", lol.


trump's base just goes for whatever he says now - perhaps in 2016/2017 they wouldn't, but it is a full on cult now


Maybe this passes as insightful in some circles but it's completely untrue when you consider how much of his base is currently fuming about weak Epstein annoucement and Israel more generally.


> it's completely untrue when you consider how much of his base is currently fuming about weak Epstein annoucement and Israel more generally

Yeah, but they're not going to do anything about it.


I am trying to express in good faith, I have found the Left to be generally less effective in dealing with grassroots criticism (it's seen as too populist). Trump will flip on an issue due to pressure from the frog guys. The Left are more dogmatic from top intellectuals, don't really listen to the base. Huge issue in the last elxn. Fixable though imo.


Not if he puts boots on the ground. Having a relative die in a foreign war focuses people’s attention real fast. They may blame Biden somehow but


Nah, they'd say it was god's will or some nonsense and pretend it's all right. A minority might even be completely fine with losses as long as their god emperor wins in the end and owns the libs.


Gosh could there be some kind of connection between Biden and the conflict in Ukraine?


Yes, he did everything he could to prevent it - being mocked mercilessly by the rightwing for suggesting Putin might do what he eventually did.

Biden did not do enough to kick Russia out, though. He should have given Ukraine everything they wanted, including a no-fly zone (and ideally Warthog support when Russia was stuck in the mud).


Seems too soon, and both Trump and Putin know that.

But in a few months, when Trump’s base and the Republican Party have turned completely pro-Putin and anti-Europe…


IMHO, they are already there. There's no spine in the Republican party to prevent bowing down to Putin, they have always been anti-Europe, and Putin is a big daddy that they actively court when they idolize Hungary's dictator and hold CPAC meetings and try to emulate Orban.


I think in this era of misinformation Trump+Elon can convince their falolowers that is the greatest idea to help Putin, and that Putin is the second greatest leader in the world history after Trump... you can still see USAians claiming USA paid more then Europe even if the lie was exposed days ago


Unfortunately I think it plays well for their audience, makes Trump and Vance look strong, and makes Zelenksy look week.


He made his priority pretty clear in that regard:

> Shortly before the meeting ended, Trump offered, “This is going to be great television.”

https://apnews.com/article/zelenskyy-security-guarantees-tru...


If there was ever proof that Trump is just a troll, this is it. Annoy the room just so you can't be overlooked, no matter how much you deserve to be.


MMA-based diplomacy.


More like WWE


More like department of education.


Yeah, I watched as much of the video as I could, and I can totally see this playing well with all the conservatives I know. JD Vance and Trump come off as strong, and Zelensky comes off as weak.


The only one who looked strong was zelensky to me. But I’m sure the maga base will eat this up and oddly are pro Russia now.


It's funny, I mean I don't know the exact divide between MAGA and trad Republicans, but the trad Republicans I know have been the ones to turn pro-Russia. There definitely seems to be a split in /r/conservative.


No, they come off as weak little babies whining about someone not saying thank you.


Who are you telling, but they're not playing to us.


That's not what strength looks like, but the American right-wing probably will think it is.


Cue the super-cut of Zelensky thanking the U.S. since probably December 2022.


I'm curious which way this will go since this is opinion is split in the current administration. If I had to guess, I'm guessing big tech will win, and h-1b will be protected/maximized.


I would argue that SCOTUS tells congress to make a better and more clear law, but Congress never makes one. H4 is not important for big tech as hypothetically speaking partners can stay apart in different countries for the term of the visa. Though imo H4 has more abusers of the program than h1b.


hypothetically speaking partners can stay apart in different countries for the term of the visa

this is sarcasm, right?


Areas with dense populations will be financially incentivized to generate their own storm warnings, and we'll save money on sparsely populated areas, so probably rather than spending money equally on tornadoes and hurricanes, we'll see more money spent on hurricanes and less money spent on tornadoes.


So you are saying, all states need to fund weather research themselves. That way there will be hundreds of vehicles following tornadoes and many planes studying hurricanes.

Also each State will need to fund and launch weather satellites ?

Nothing like saving money, I guess you can buy and launch satellites cheaper by the dozen ?


When the co-president is the CEO of a company that launches satellites, this sounds like a winning solution


Right, but what you are forgetting is, that in exchange for all the efficiency provided by a central government agency, millionaires with only 2 yachts will be able to leverage this private contract into enough money to buy a third yacht.


Sparsely populated areas? You mean the areas where we grow all our food? Yeah, we don’t need solid weather reports for areas like that.


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