I have used the Visual Studio family from 1997-ish to 2001 (VB, ASP/VBScript and C) and then, again in 2002 (C for WinCE) and 2004/2005 (this last time, with C# for IIS), so, I would say, I have used it quite enough. I have also used NetBeans since the time it was called Forté and Eclipse for Java/J2EE/J2ME. I find they are all at the same level in terms of debugging, with some advantage to the Sun complete toolset when running under OpenSolaris and when you want to optimize your C code for multiprocessors.
As for this not being 1990 (or 1980, BTW), I agree. One should not use antiquated tools to do a job, but I find your willingness not to understand what you are doing quite amusing. If I cared, I would find it distressing, but, since I don't, I will leave it as it is.
> I find your willingness not to understand what you are doing quite amusing
Being condescending and rude isn't moving your point along any. In fact, I still don't know what you point is. You appear to think makefiles are inherently superior to VS solution/project files, but for no obvious reasons. The only reason you give seems to be that VS users don't understand their build system, whatever that means.
As for this not being 1990 (or 1980, BTW), I agree. One should not use antiquated tools to do a job, but I find your willingness not to understand what you are doing quite amusing. If I cared, I would find it distressing, but, since I don't, I will leave it as it is.