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> Kids, don't be a snitch.

No good group of people has that rule. I've seen/heard about that rule so far from the mafia, drug dealers, and bad cops.



Would you say that Daniel Ellsberg shouldn't have "snitched" to the public on the assessment that the Vietnam War was unwinnable? You seem to conflate "good" with "authority" here.


I think you read my point in reverse? I agree with you, that the snitching is good. There's probably something to debate on what's snitching and what's being a traitor, but that's not the same debate IMO.


Snitching is a derogatory term used in closed communities to prevent harmful (to the closed community) disclosure of information.

In on itself disclosing information is not a good or bad act. Depending on the outcome and goals of the person it can be heroic or treacherous act.

Manning was a hero. Lamo is a snitch and a traitor.


It kind of sounds like you read the parents statement backwards?


Seriously, I'm really surprised at some of the comments here. Some hackers have always been suits though, so I shouldn't be surprised.


Definitely shouldn't be surprised, and it's not just the suits.

It seems that the election of Trump, in particular, has turned half of the infosec community into rabid fans of the CIA/FBI/NSA. It's really quite sickening.

One of my personal favorite public conversions has been the grugq. In 3-4 years he's gone from selling bugs (worldwide), and supporting hackers (worldwide), to a rabid Russiaphobe who uncritically accepts whatever unsubstantiated claims GCHQ and NSA make, and refuses to sell bugs to anyone but FVEY.

Summer camp probably won't be very much fun this year.


Also of interest, next year much of the USA House of Reps will be CIA agents. Either you're a fan of the intelligence apparatus, or it's coming for your House seat:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/07/dems-m07.html

This seems good for democracy!


Selling vulnerabilities is a shitty thing to do. Selling to American spies instead of Russian mobsters doesn't make it any worse.


I've also heard it from victims of tyrannical and genocidal governments.


Anyone who's ever smoked weed.




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