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No they weren't.


Comments like this, especially when someone in the thread has already asked for alternatives, isn't particularly useful. On the contrary, it is the coward's approach of shutting down other people position but not be willing to stake out one of your own to likewise be subject to scrutiny.


Comments like this, especially when someone in the thread has already asked for alternatives, isn't particularly useful. On the contrary, it is the coward's approach of shutting down other people position but not be willing to stake out one of your own to likewise be subject to scrutiny.

I've already outlined the many ways in which Ubiquiti was not a reasonable player on this and other posts, their deliberate GPL violations that exposed users to added vulns was covered in the initial post about their spyware. I'll take it a step further and posit that Ubiquiti has done little to nothing in good faith.

Their offerings are largely thin veneers over open source software with minimal engineering effort (likely because Ubiquiti has little to no actual engineering staff). Look at the packet corruption bugs in the switches, the overheating, or the RADIUS issues that their WiFi gear has (and Ubiquiti has zero knowledge on how to debug). For fucks sakes Ubiquiti shipped their EdgeRouter lineup with an EOL'd version of Debian for ages (specifically the MIPS support had been EOL'd and Ubiquiti largely didn't build or ship security updates). EdgeOS, of course, is merely a thin HTML based wrapper on top of Vyatta (and an exceedingly buggy one for a while).

I don't think there are a ton of great options (although NetBSD on the Oceteon hardware seems like a good solution) once you've restricted yourself to that price point. Lack of better options doesn't mean that Ubiquiti is good or reasonably behaved.


Ubiquity, for all its faults, is kit I can buy and it works today. I had to look up what the fuck Oceteon even is and it looks like an embedded platform. I can't see any ready-made solution for the things Uni-Fi does, so that means it's roll-your-own. No thanks.


Ubiquity, for all its faults, is kit I can buy and it works today.

Until you enable hardware acceleration and it corrupts your traffic mysteriously. Or maybe you don't want your network gear to phone home. Maybe you don't want to overheat and kill its internal storage. Maybe you want the PoE to be configured in a way that you're going to fry things accidentally.

I had to look up what the fuck Oceteon even is and it looks like an embedded platform. I can't see any ready-made solution for the things Uni-Fi does, so that means it's roll-your-own. No thanks.

If you don't know what the fuck I'm talking about maybe instead of swearing and whining like a jackass you should look it up.

Edit: If anyone else out there is interested in defending Ubiquiti without knowing anything about their products - Cavium's Oceton is a MIPS64 SoC for network appliances that Ubiquiti uses in their EdgeRouter Lite lineup (and potentially others). It's also found in a variety of hardware from vendors like D-Link and SonicWall. It's a bit power hungry (you can cook an egg on an ERL), but is supported by NetBSD and OpenBSD just fine.

Ubiquiti is like the Mongo of networking appliances. They have a lot of checkboxes on their datasheets, but not all of the features are well developed.




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