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What exactly Trump said to spark this? All information I found is rumors, that he posted a video asking people to respect the police, stop the violence and go home.

Anyone has seen the video and texts in question and can tell me?

EDIT: mass downvoting people, seriously? I didn't even defend Trump (or Biden), I asked a question, I am from Brazil and wanted to know what happened.



The video (if it's yesterday's video you're talking about) started by saying that the election has been stolen, it was a landslide on his favor, yadda yadda, only to end with a variation of "stay peaceful and go home now". it was 20% call to peace and 80% reinforcement of the idea that democracy has been hijacked to get him out.


Claims he won in a landslide and that the people invading the Capitol in Camp Auschwitz t-shirts were special and he loves them


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcfcTB9-S2s

Here is the video, in all its slurred shame.


Nope, he did say exactly that. He felt very special about them and loves them. Transcript and video is not hard to find.


He literally called them special and said that he loved them. As in, he used the words "you're special" and "[I] love you". It's not ambiguous or subject to debate.


> He literally called them special and said that he loved them.

> he used the words "you're special" and "[I] love you". It's not ambiguous or subject to debate

Trump did not select those specific people out for praise ("the people invading the Capitol in Camp Auschwitz t-shirts were special and he loves them" - philk10), which was the implication. philk10's comment is ambiguous, which then goes on a derail about what words were used.


He didn’t single out any specific group: it was all-inclusive. As in, including those individuals. This isn’t debatable or ambiguous, and it’s disingenuous bordering on willful misunderstanding of how words and language work to suggest otherwise.


> This isn’t debatable or ambiguous

"This" meaning the original point, was stated with an ambiguous point, as described.

> it’s disingenuous bordering on willful misunderstanding

I laid out the progression, but you are ignoring it with misplaced hubris. That's fine. Good luck with whatever.


People branding his flags and hats stormed the Capitol walls and Senate floor, as he delayed an eventual reiteration that the elections were rigged, they should be furious, but now they should go home and that he loved them very much and were very special people. There were nooses propped up, people died, and elected officials were bunkered. His close sources also reported that he watched on TV with manic joy at what people were doing in his name. Hence, the ban and mass 11th-hour resignations.


That's not relevant to the question he asked.

> What exactly Trump said to spark this?


No? I did respond with the President’s response, and his response is called fomenting - the reason for the ban in question.

> an eventual reiteration that the elections were rigged, they should be furious, but now they should go home and that he loved them very much and were very special people


Maybe add an attribution <quote> -Trump, otherwise it looks like the random ramblings he goes on.



i think the issue is how the video was worded.

"please respect the police"

and then

"you are completely right to be angry, it was stolen. i love you and you're special"

the first comment is def a calming attempt, followed by an immediate call to action.


"""I know your pain. I know you’re hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election, and everyone knows it, especially the other side.

But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time.

There’s never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us — from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election.

But we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special. You’ve seen what happens. You see the way others are treated — that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel, but go home and go home in peace."""


Everyone is replying about the videos online or after the fact. What I believe the large media outlets are referring to when they reference "inciting" is his words at protest rally he held earlier in the day at which suggested that supporters should march over to the capital. This is after weeks of previous remarks trying to delegitimize the election and suggesting someone should stop "them" from stealing the election.


By "this" do you mean the bans on facebook or twitter? I saw the video he posted on twitter, he said something like

please be peaceful, please respect our police, we had a beautiful landslide victory that was taken from us, it was stolen i know, but you have to go home now, you're special and we love you but you have to go home.

I'm specifically not using quotation marks because I'm recalling it from memory. I'm sure you can find a backup of it somewhere.

If you're asking about what sparked the actual attack, Trump specifically told a crowd at a nearby rally to march on the capitol before the event. He's also been saying the election was stolen for the past two months every time he's gotten in front of a microphone.


I don't have the exact words in front of me, but his speech prior to the mob occupying Congress exhorted them to march to Congress. Given the context of the sedition that happened afterwards, the speech may have crossed the line set by Brandenburg v Ohio of incitement to "imminent lawless action" [1].

I believe during the same speech, he also criticized the Vice President for following his Constitutional obligations instead of (as the President would prefer) taking unilateral decisions to throw the vote to Trump instead.

[1] To be clear, the test in Brandenburg v Ohio is a test of whether or not the government can make the speech outright illegal to speak. This is necessarily a very high bar, and it is much higher in the US than most countries in the world. The bar for whether or not private individuals and organizations should feel compelled to disassociate from an individual is clearly lower. That one can seriously entertain that the President's speech is surpassing the high bar of outright illegal speech should indicate how reasonable it is for others to consider it beyond the pale.


I've seen the video. It says to go home, but it also says that the election was stolen and that Trump won in a landslide. On balance it says more to encourage the mob than calm them down.


Especially in the context that the mob walked from a Trump rally where he personally encouraged violence on legislators for taking their victory away.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-07/how-donald-trump-rall...


I found this page that shows Trump's deleted tweets: https://factba.se/topic/deleted-tweets

I don't know if the Facebook posts were the same though.





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