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Even the most optimistic data we ever had was ~90% reduction in infection. That the vaccines on the market were not sterilizing has been evident since the start.

There are a lot of examples in that thread, too. She's been confidently predicting hitting herd immunity, no need for boosters, last wave, etc. sort of stuff for a long time.



It’s fine to say with hindsight that vaccine predictions were wrong, but again, that was the official position of the CDC and Biden administration at the time as well, so it’s hugely dishonest to pretend like she’s some kind of extremist or disinformation artist for being on the same page as them.

It’s not really the reader’s responsibility to check everything else in the thread to see how you and/or the thread author are either lying or failing to remember very public facts about the pandemic.


> It’s fine to say with hindsight that vaccine predictions were wrong...

It's also fine to say I'm not inclined to trust the opinions of someone who has been repeatedly and demonstrably wrong in this fashion.

I know Biden got out over his skis on a number of statements, but can you cite the CDC ever making this claim? The wording they were using in June 2021 was reduce infection. https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-ri...

"I also feel that I can't spread it to others" is a confident, evidence-free, and wrong statement.


Those CDC claims are now demonstrably wrong in the same post-Delta world you’re judging her claims by. When the CDC recommended that vaccinated people no longer needed to wear masks, exactly what do you think they were claiming that is different from Gandhi?

It’s fine if you want to ignore people who’ve made predictions about Covid that turned out to be wrong, but it just means you have to ignore everyone.


Gandhi’s claim was wrong at the time. Right then and there. There was no indication the vaccines were sterilizing; she was just wishful thinking.


And yet her position was exactly the same as the CDC’s: the vaccines prevent infection and transmission enough that masks were no longer needed on vaccinated people.


That is only part of her stated position, and not the part I take strong issue with.

“they make it so that you can't transmit” was a blatantly false claim about the vaccines at the time it was made.




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