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What's the point of this comment? You don't have to like or support the US or deny its atrocities to observe the atrocities currently being committed in Ukraine.

> Ukrainians who have nazi training camps for children (there is a whole documentary about them from The Guardian on YT).

I think it would behoove you to actually link to this. It's hard to tell from context whether you're claiming that the Ukrainian government is engaging in neo-Nazi education (this would be extraordinary) or whether some neo-Nazis in Ukraine are doing so (this would be upsetting, but not particularly surprising for Eastern Europe in general).



It's a bit of both really, the far-right extremists helped the Maidan regime change, so the paramilitary made themselves at home inside the governement and in many areas in this country ( remember, that's a large country, divided and diverse ). Now ? I really don't know, but if you happen to see any report before February 2022 you could have your questions answered easily. Without them, the revolution wouldn't be successful. Reports dating back to 2014-2015 clearly show children being educated in a strange manner, when it was kind of allowed to say the complicated truth inside this nation.


The Guardian video is here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jiBXmbkwiSw

The paramilitary group which organized the camp was officially integrated into the Ukrainian National Guard. One of its members recently joined Zelensky in addressing the Greek parliament: https://greekreporter.com/2022/04/07/greek-azov-fighter-zele...


Openly Ukrainian nazi youth training camp video, by the Guardian (western MSM), in 2017, easy to find on YT. And organizer also has ties to Kiev gov't. Story unfolding... But down voted :)


> What's the point of this comment?

The west is so quick to condemn Russia, where the west has been warring all over the place with less good reasons to invaded that Russia. Keep in mind that: there are many Russians is Ukra, Russians were marginalized in Ukra especially since 2014, Russia is next to Ukra (unlike the middle east to say the US) so they have reasons to protect their safety, Ukra got Crimea during USSR times from Russia, and Putin made clear demands of what is needed for the war to be over (not part of any block, accept Crimea is Russia, Donbas gains autonomy).

This is a much more understandable invasion to me than Iraq 1+2, Libya, Syria, Afganistan and Vietnam.

> I think it would behoove you to actually link to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiBXmbkwiSw

> It's hard to tell from context whether you're claiming that the Ukrainian government is engaging in neo-Nazi education (this would be extraordinary) or whether some neo-Nazis in Ukraine are doing so (this would be upsetting, but not particularly surprising for Eastern Europe in general).

The second. But no crackdown from the central gov't (while it breaks international law) and you see links with the openly nazi Azov battalion everywhere in the training camp.


Are you calling Ukraine Ukra? I cant tell if you are trying to save bandwidth or sound demeaning to the country and its people.

These so-called safety reasons are Russian propaganda lies as there was 0 reasons for a nuclear-armed Russia to be afraid of Ukrainian military attacking its territories.

Remember, Ukrainian politics have a lifespan of 4 years, so they have to fight to stay in the office. For Russian, their czar is forever, so his illusions of grandeur are lifelong.


A Russian invasion of Ukraine is more understandable than "Iraq 1", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War , which was Iraq invading Kuwait and the US freeing Kuwait from Iraqi invasion, scud missiles, and tanks?

Of course that's more "understandable" to you, because the rest of your history is equally misinformed and backwards.


Correction - what is happening is not an "invasion", it's war. War, plain and simple.

The first step to fixing a problem is naming it. And Russians can't even do that.




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