It’s interesting the extent to which police varies geographically. I’d love for any police officer of Oregon to be at my side in times of trouble, but god forbid any King country officer show up when I’m in need.
I’d wager any “blue lives matter” folks would change their mind when presented with urban officers, and on the flip side all “ACAB” people would flip when dealing with rural enforcement.
>I’d wager any “blue lives matter” folks would change their mind when presented with urban officers, and on the flip side all “ACAB” people would flip when dealing with rural enforcement.
i wish i could downvote this 100 times, because its just so absent of any factual basis. i live in rural oregon and regularly have to defend my neighbors from the police. the year i moved to my home in rural oregon a young child ~7 yo was accosted on my driveway on july 4th by local police for riding their bike down the street. my wife cried, i had to go out and talk to the police. when disrupted, they provided no explanation for why they had pulled the child over for questioning on my driveway (bringing said child to tears obviously), they let him go while i was arguing with them that they had no reason to accost this child. (they were never able to come up with a reason that this particular asian child was not allowed to ride his bike on a road where many white children had been riding all day)
i moved to rural oregon coming from downtown portland after tear gas was pouring into my 12th floor window during that 2020 protests. this wasnt citizens deploying tear gas downtown, this was police. 12th floor of a high rise in downtown SW Portland. this was in May of 2020 before it got much worse. the policing here in rural oregon is not much better but more infrequent, this does not represent a better police force, but a more lackadaisical one with less accountability.
the idea that rural police are actually more inclined to police their jurisdiction properly is pure hogwash, invented by people who dont interact with those outside the "standard social sphere" and see no problem with outcasting others. sure in rural oregon where you dont know anyone who isnt white, it might seem like the police are just hunky dory; but bring anyone else into the equation and you see very quickly who is and isnt held the the absolute law, and who is and isnt hunted down by those rural police and treated as a criminal despite actions and age. your comment speaks to your incredible ignorance of what many people go through, even in the rural areas of this state.
reminder: oregon is a state that outlawed slavery, not because of the human rights violations, but because it would mean that black people were allowed in the state! please be serious when talking about how utterly depraved the state of oregon is when it comes to treating all people with their basic human rights.
Every input must be scaled by one’s certainty the source is portraying an accurate and honest representation of the underlying facts (if you don’t perform such scaling I have no interest in your arguments).
Before you made the above comment, I had my default small but nonzero belief you were portraying your experience accurately and the same for your source. Thus, multiplied together, the information carried little (but still nonzero!) weight. This isn’t me being difficult, it’s quite literally the at the core of any reasonable legal system.
After you made this comment, willfully and egregiously misrepresenting what I said for the sake of… I don’t know what… I hold zero belief that you accurately and honestly represent underlying facts in arguments — meaning this thread has reached its natural conclusion. Cheers, have a good day.
I'm not the one here who is refusing to believe something that gets reported on a regular basis. I'm assuming you haven't had any negative experience with police because your skin color places you in the majority
It seems weird to me how there's a group a people who seem to think the police can do no wrong and are infallible yet shit keeps happening. The police are definitely racist and its more common than you would apparently like to admit
I’d wager any “blue lives matter” folks would change their mind when presented with urban officers, and on the flip side all “ACAB” people would flip when dealing with rural enforcement.