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I’ve seen far more semi-automatic rifles in the hands of police offers in Europe than I ever have in the US. Our front line police here might be over-armed but they have no issue with the application of state violence anywhere else in the world.


You mean just strolling around town with a semiauto? Or are they at train stations and stadiums in case there is a terrorist attack?

If you got pulled over for speeding in this country, would you expect a cop to come up to you with a semiauto?


Almost all pistols are semi automatic.


Those are almost never semiauto, they're either submachine guns or full on assault rifles. The real ones with select fire.

London, Brussels, Paris, Rome, Florence, yadda yadda. I don't know why Europeans don't see them, I've had this conversation dozens of times and they always go "oh. yeah. but that doesn't count!"


In London, the system is:

- Normal police have no guns.

- Specialist Firearms Command (SCO19) carry weapons (hand guns), but they are only called in when needed (like to arrest a known violent criminal). The have access to a rifle locked in their vehicle, but they don't routinely carry it around.

- Counter Terrorist Specialist Firearms Officers (CT-SFO) are the top tier of SCO19, trained for major crime, hostage taking and terrorism. This is who you are going to see walking around with submachine guns and assault rifles at the Olympics, Buckingham Palace, Parliament, etc.

- The Queen's Guard at Buckingham Palace (the people with the funny hats) also carry rifles with bayonets, but they aren't loaded. They are more likely to hit you with them or stab you with the bayonet if you mess with them.

If you are tourist going to Buckingham Palace, Parliament or other super high risk sites, you are going to see CT-SFO officers out carrying assault rifles because they are positioned to respond in case of a terrorist attack. This is the same as visiting the White House or the Pentagon. You are going to see heavily armed guards on patrol at places like that.

But in daily life outside of that, you are only interacting with unarmed police.

So it's not that "it doesn't count." It's that guns are only involved when there's a strong reason to get them involved. If you call the police for a domestic dispute, no one is going to have a gun and no one is getting shot.


"Assault rifle" is a marketing term, not a descriptive characteristic of a gun.


It is no such thing. An assault rifle is a select-fire rifle with an intermediate cartridge and detachable magazine. AR-15s are not this, since they aren't select-fire.

You're thinking of "assault weapon", which is when a gun is scary and black.




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