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> never, ever give a TV an internet connection, wifi password or dhcp lease.

The problem is that it’s becoming unavoidable. Right now the only oven with a good Consumer Reports rating requires a Wi-Fi connection, so it’s either get that model or another one with a significantly worse rating.



I will build a fire pit with cinder blocks in my back yard and roast hunks of meat using a sharpened stick before I put my oven on a wifi network.


Or find a reviewer who values the same things you do?

I have to think there's an acceptable oven on the market that doesn't have a Wi-Fi requirement. I bought a GE Adora oven a few years ago and it has been exactly as perfectly uncomplicated an oven as I've ever wanted; it was even easy to replace the handle when I broke it off in a moment of poor judgement. It looks like those are still available, and don't require any Wi-Fi access.


> Right now the only oven with a good Consumer Reports rating requires a Wi-Fi connection, so it’s either get that model or another one with a significantly worse rating.

I guarantee you Wolf, Sub-Zero, and Viking do not require Wi-Fi connections.


> Wolf, Sub-Zero, and Viking

Sure, but they get worse reviews, and I can get 8 years of insurance on the appliance to cover if it gets hacked for less than the cost difference.


What for? Genuine question, what reason does an oven need an internet connection for?

If I bought an oven and it required an internet connection I'd be getting my money back.


In order for the company to extract more money out of you, of course.


> Right now the only oven with a good Consumer Reports rating requires a Wi-Fi connection

Is this some weird American only thing? I keep hearing on HN how everything requires wifi now, but in Australia, I couldn't find any major oven that had wifi at all, and only 14 out of 504 fridges on a popular appliances site (Appliances Online) had wifi at all.

I'd be interested to know what the options look like in other countries.


Then the consumer reports rating is obviously wrong.


Or buy a commercial oven. Or used




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