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The pro-density crowd cannot comprehend wanting to live in a quiet, safe, uncrowded town. They say the only possible motivations are money and racism.


What we can't comprehend is forcing everyone in the country to live in the type of town you want. Move to bumfuck if you want a quiet uncrowded town. People near jobs want cheap housing.


Sure we can. We just think that can also look like this: https://youtu.be/5APjiZz_XCY

Uncrowded is subjective I suppose but it's certainly no Manhattan.


> The pro-density crowd cannot comprehend wanting to live in a quiet, safe, uncrowded town.

No, we just can't comprehend why you would expect the big city to be quiet and uncrowded. It's like moving to the tropics, and complaining that it rains too much, and that the skiing sucks.

If you want quiet and uncrowded, there's the 99.9% of the country's land area that isn't taken up by coastal metros in the middle of a crippling housing crisis.


San Fransisco left behind "uncrowded town" quite a lot time ago.


I live in Tokyo, in a central area (nearish to Shibuya). It's dense, but quiet, safe, and surprisingly not that crowded. There's a few children's play areas within a 2 minute walk. There's numerous parks around me, including dog runs.

The anti-density crowd can't imagine allowing well planned towns and cities to exist in the US.




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