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Management: You don't want to work remotely Employees: Yes we do Management: No you don't, look at all these studies about how bad it is for us? Employees: We don't care Management: No you don't, look at all these studies about how bad it is for you, sorta, in some minor aspects?

Some people want to work remotely, other people don't, and management/corpos HATE it because they invested in massive office leases/are listening to their rich investor friends who have money tied in urban office real estate.

I'm sick of these propaganda pieces, you're not going to convince the people who want something that they don't want it this way. IDGAF how much my "career" will suffer, I like spending my day hugging my wife and gardening when I don't have work on my desk. FOH.



I think your thesis about management wanting in-office is accurate, but your rationale for why seems misguided.

I'm the CEO of a 500 person company and our lease cost is negligible relative to everything else, and being fully remote means lots of travel and expensive all-hands get togethers which almost fully negate any office savings.

The overlap between VCs and public market investors and "rich investor friends who have money tied to urban office real estate" is non-existent from a pressure and influence standpoint.


Management: We just want everyone to be able to meet and share ideas and be in a simple easy to monetize…monitor space. It’s about team work! Employees: we want to work remotely and don’t care about your fucking problems or rational so just stop trying to convince us


Management also wants to maximise control over their employees, which is easy to lose in a remote environment.


One has to distinguish between management and upper management. I have met plenty of middle managers (e.g., Engineer managers) who love working from home, but have to sell the “go back to the office “ idea because it’s coming from upper management.




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