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It's a simple law: "price at the register cannot exceed the advertised price".


I'd love this! Not for tipping, but so that we can stop with this nonsense of not including sales tax in the price listed for things.


That could be tricky. When I live, a cold burrito in a refrigerator cabinet is considered to be groceries, and is untaxed. Heat up that burrito, and it's a taxable meal. Also, some non-profit organizations aren't taxed on purchases, so the sticker price is the final price for them.

You can't pre-calculate the final taxed price using the local tax algorithms as they are today. They number can't be known until the transaction takes place.


you can just list two prices for cold and hot


That would be OK in that specific instance. However, there are a lot of rules like that, and I just wanted to mention a couple.

In any case, I'm not saying that it can't be done, just that it may be a lot complicated than adding a fixed percentage to every price label.


if that is the case then the rules are too complicated and need simplifying. that is not automatically an argument to not have a rule to list the full price, but it could also be an argument to remove or change other rules that make things more complicated. the lawmakers here need to weigh the pros and cons for each.


While I agree, I suspect there’s little political will to overhaul the local sales tax system right now.


Europe manages it just fine


For a given class of goods Europe generally has one VAT rate for the whole country.

In the US the sales tax for a given in-person sale is the state sales tax, plus possibly county sales tax, city sales tax, and sometimes even special tax district sales tax.

For remote sales, it is similar except the tax is computed using the buyer's location rather than the seller's location.


If they can calculate the price at the tills, they can calculate the price for the labels on the shelves, or the price stickers


They can do that but that costs money so they never will. We worship the dollar like its a god above gods. No way we're going to willingly do something that costs the rich a dime more than absolutely necessary.


But they cannot calculate price on ads. Also, can you deduct VAT from your taxable income in Europe? Sales tax in the US is deductible.


VAT is deductible if the buyer is a VAT registered business. The amount of VAT is still printed on the receipt by law, so you can still know how much you pay.

Companies already manage seperate ads in the EU for language, currency and price discrimination reasons, it's really not a huge bother.


So customers cannot deduct VAT from their personal taxes... I also doubt that separate ads per township are common in EU. For example, in Los Angeles the city is made from several separate townships with different sales taxes, two shops on the same street may have different taxes because one can be in LA and another in Santa Monica.


Price at the register is exactly the same as the advertised price.


Em.. no, the advertised price usually says "latte 4.50" but at the register it gets mysteriously padded with sales tax, tip tax, foo tax and bar tax, so you have to pay 6.50.


Nobody thinks anything is getting "padded" with sales tax other than Europeans who have never heard of the practice before and can't get over the fact that ~5% (the median US sales tax is 5.1%) wasn't disclosed as if that is making their breakfast unaffordable.

You're never required to tip so the "advertised price" and the price at the register are identical. You choosing to leave $2 on top of that doesn't change anything, even if it's only done through social pressure.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratuity#/media/File:Restauran...

Which bit do you not understand? End point taxes are not ubiquitos, and at least other countires have decent laws so people can see what they actually pay.


Uhhh..

> > says "latte 4.50"

> > pay 6.50

> You're never required to tip so the "advertised price" and the price at the register are identical. You choosing to leave $2 on top of that doesn't change anything, even if it's only done through social pressure.

Taxes and tips aren't the same thing. Their $2 example is something you are required to pay.


Silly attempt at shrugging off legitimate complaints notwithstanding, at least use an average sales tax when you do.

Now it just comes across as you saying that half the country is above 5%, which would’ve been a more honest statement as it seems considering few states however around 5% combined sales tax: https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/2023-sales-tax-rate...


The average sales tax in the US is 5.1%.


Got a source for that?

My source shows that the combined average sales tax (i.e. state, county, city and municipal) comes down to 6.57%, 6.59% if you don’t count DC.

26 of them have an average combined sales tax of 7% or more.


Not in Seattle, they have a host of fees they add to the menu. That look like tips but aren’t




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