Considering what’s at Tesla, I don’t think it makes sense to assume they’ll be constraining themselves to text/LLM.
But on the philosophical side, if an understanding can’t be communicated, does it exist? We humans only have various movements and vibrations of flesh, sensing those, text, and images to communicate.
> But on the philosophical side, if an understanding can’t be communicated, does it exist?
There are deep mathematical results about our limits to understand things simply because we communicate through finite series of symbols from finite dictionaries. Basically what we can express and prove is infinite but discrete, but there is much larger infinities than that that will be beyond our grasps forever. Things like theorems that are true but can not be proven to be true, or properties on individuals real numbers that exist but can not be expressed.
And there is no reason to believe the universe doesn't have the same kind of thing: it remains to be shown whether or not you can describe or understand the universe with a finite set of symbols.
Yep. Expanding on that; before AI everyone I knew would postulate on the fictional Library of Babel. The idea was a thought experiment, where you assume there exists a library with every possible combination of words and letters written down in one of it's books. There would be millions of issues that are filled with garbled and meaningless text; only a few would be legible, and fewer yet understandable.
It begs the question, if sifting through noise is a meaningful way to look for scientific progress. And of course, what if it's wrong? Both the Library of Babel and AI are fully capable of leading us down untested and nonsense rabbit-holes. The difference between Alice and Wonderland and Jabberwocky is unknown to us; we wouldn't know which books are worth reading and which are not.
On the one hand, you have people excited by this idea. Some people really do think that the world's answers are up on a bookshelf in the Library of Babel, somewhere. The philosophical angle runs deeper yet, though; what kind of cargo-cult society would we build relying on a useful AI? Are we guaranteed meaningful progress because an AI model can keep pressing the "randomize" button? Do we eventually hit a point where fiction and reality are indistinguishable? It's all hard to say.
" Considering what’s at Tesla, I don’t think it makes sense to assume they’ll be constraining themselves to text/LLM. " Tesla is losing money and cant fulfill its promises about AI. What do you mean?
Could you name the competing self driving systems (as in currently competing, with similar performance) that are available to the public, for private transport, that you have in mind?
Waymo is operating and doing passenger miles commercially with no one behind the wheel. Tesla hasn't yet done that even for the controlled Vegas loop they said they would do it in. Waymo still has remote operators who can handle unusual situations but they handle multiple cars and only the car itself responds to sudden events. They are operating at level 4.
Tesla still has one local operator per car who has to be able to have twitch reactions at all times.
Competitors like Honda and Mercedes also let you take your hands off the wheel and eyes off the road in certain areas (level 3), which Tesla hasn't yet achieved.
Many are not available in the US. Audi have a leading system and Mercedes have the highest rated system available in the US and are officially at level 3. The problem is Musk sucks up so much air marketing Tesla as leading people have come to believe it. The leading systems aren’t super impressive yet but Musks lies about his system which doesn’t work aren’t proof of anything but hubris. He’s just pumping stock to the ignorant.
But on the philosophical side, if an understanding can’t be communicated, does it exist? We humans only have various movements and vibrations of flesh, sensing those, text, and images to communicate.