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What do you mean by "things that are actually teleologically useful"?

Fellow physicist here by the way



Like useful in an intentional way: purpose-built and achieves success via accurate, parsimonious models. The telos here being the stated goal of a structurally sound agent that can emulate a human being, as opposed to the accidental, max-entropy implementations we have today.


Sounds like an arbitrary telos, especially in a world where one of the most useful inventions in human existence has been turning dead dinosaurs into flying metal containers to transport ourselves great distances in.


Every goal is equally arbitrary, I'm speaking to the assumed ideology of the AI fanatics.


Is a guide dog teleologically useful?


Not if you’re taste testing ceviche


I see, so humans are also not usefully intelligent in an intentional way, because they also follow the 2nd law of thermodynamics and maximize entropy and aren't deterministic?


Pure, refined “but humans also”.


What do you mean by "Pure, refined"?

You're right that "but humans also" is better than my "and humans also"


Not OP, but I'm assuming he means that they are maddeningly black-boxy, if you want to know how the sausage is made.




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