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My kids will still go to a four-year university, but for the education and experience, not for any vocational aspirations. I have no delusions about the marketability of an undergraduate degree.

A happy side effect of that university degree was a more rounded education, which now many young adults will be missing out on. The downstream effects could be catastrophic.



> A happy side effect of that university degree was a more rounded education, which now many young adults will be missing out on.

Absolutely! So many people bemoan taking general Ed classes, but knowing the basics about economics, literature, science, art, math, history is valuable if you want to think critically about the world.


Why do you need to pay to go to college to learn the basics of all these subjects? The same information is available for free online.


Teaching is a deliberate act, and it cannot be replaced by a Google AI summary.


> a Google AI summary

That's not the online material I was referring to. Many universities have their course materials available for free online. Not to mention other online learning sites.


I think the point is that if you’re going to get a degree in mechanical engineering, you need to study differential equation, and if you’re going to have a well-rounded education, you need to study some history. Both were a requirement in the past, but we’re moving more towards only the former being considered important.


The claim I was responding to was that one needs to go to college to get a "well-rounded education". I don't see why: the information is available for free online, and the value add of getting it by paying college professors to "teach" it to you is, IMO, highly questionable.


most teachers these days use google (or another AI) and before AI they just used google. few exceptions of course but on the large you are imagining some utopia education which no longer exists. I pay insane amount of money to send me kid to private school and she still gets more education at home by wide margin than at school


> Teaching is a deliberate act

The issue isn't teaching, it's learning. I don't think it's at all obvious that being taught by college professors is the best way to learn that material.


>> but knowing the basics about economics, literature, science, art, math, history is valuable if you want to think critically about the world.

Sure if that is relevant to what your goals in life are. I chose to get an education that was tightly coupled with the outcome I wanted.


That’s kind of my point. Everyone wants to narrowly focus on what will bring them the most value as quickly as possible. Being educated in a wide array of subjects doesn’t seem useful at first, but it actually makes you a better communicator, and citizen.

Also, knowing a little about a lot of things doesn’t preclude you from being an expert in your field.


Agreed. Going to college for the social experience and for generally learning about the world is effectively a luxury good now. For people who just want a path to stable employment, the ROI on college no longer makes sense at all.


I think our society’s obsession with thinking of everything in terms of ROI is destructive.


I suggest they live in on-campus dorms, at least the first couple of years: a cultural broadening experience like no other.




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