Yes, it's slow. You don't have to drive that slowly in a Tesla as you just claimed.
> Huh? Elon is saying "Look! He turned the heat up!". So what? He wanted it warmer. This is not a problem in an ICE vehicle.
It's not a problem in the Tesla either. Elon's calling him out because it appears the journalist lied.
> Yeah, because the machinery required to dig all those precious metals out of the ground to make these batteries aren't burning a ton of diesel in unstable countries around the planet. Nor are the machines that need to build the charging stations in close succession, because you have to charge these cars far more often than you have to fill up with gasoline (and gas stations are already too prominent on the landscape). Glad you'd like to see more. Nor is the electric grid that most people will charge from "dirty".
Better not make any progress then, or try anything new. You're right, let's keep polluting the atmosphere.
> You seem really angry that people aren't as impressed with this thing.
On the contrary, you're the one who seems angry.
> he drove too fast
First, no that's not Elon's argument. Elon's argument is that the journalist lied. Second, didn't he drive too fast? Did he break the speed limit and drive illegally while reviewing a product? That seems like a bad idea.
> he set the temperature too high
No, that's not Elon's argument. His argument is that the journalist lied.
> and didn't charge long enough.
He didn't, but he claimed he did. Again, it appears the journalist lied.
> As a guy who puts 30k miles per year on my car, those are things that would annoy me and I wouldn't expect from a car approaching six figures.
So don't buy a Tesla yet.
Edit: Approaching six figures? Where I live, a Tesla Model S costs about $48,000. That's hardly approaching six figures.
I'm not claiming that Broder isn't a hatchet man and lied. If you'd taken the time to read, rather than going off like an crazy environmental zealot in every thread, you'd have seen that.
>"Better not make any progress then, or try anything new. You're right, let's keep polluting the atmosphere."
What are you going on about? No one is arguing anything of the sort. EVs just aren't the environmental saviour you want them to be. They have their own issues.
>"No, that's not Elon's argument. His argument is that the journalist lied."
Let me see if I can spell this out for you:
Broden said he followed the Tesla guidelines, like driving 54. He didn't. Elon busted him in that lie. But Elon didn't say those aren't the guidelines.
I'm saying those guidelines are ridiculous. Driving 11mph below the speed limit and with-lower-than-desired temperature settings, just so you can make your destination, is bad. Having to stop and charge for a whole HOUR, multiple times on a 600 mile trip, is bad.
Yes, it's slow. You don't have to drive that slowly in a Tesla as you just claimed.
> Huh? Elon is saying "Look! He turned the heat up!". So what? He wanted it warmer. This is not a problem in an ICE vehicle.
It's not a problem in the Tesla either. Elon's calling him out because it appears the journalist lied.
> Yeah, because the machinery required to dig all those precious metals out of the ground to make these batteries aren't burning a ton of diesel in unstable countries around the planet. Nor are the machines that need to build the charging stations in close succession, because you have to charge these cars far more often than you have to fill up with gasoline (and gas stations are already too prominent on the landscape). Glad you'd like to see more. Nor is the electric grid that most people will charge from "dirty".
Better not make any progress then, or try anything new. You're right, let's keep polluting the atmosphere.
> You seem really angry that people aren't as impressed with this thing.
On the contrary, you're the one who seems angry.
> he drove too fast
First, no that's not Elon's argument. Elon's argument is that the journalist lied. Second, didn't he drive too fast? Did he break the speed limit and drive illegally while reviewing a product? That seems like a bad idea.
> he set the temperature too high
No, that's not Elon's argument. His argument is that the journalist lied.
> and didn't charge long enough.
He didn't, but he claimed he did. Again, it appears the journalist lied.
> As a guy who puts 30k miles per year on my car, those are things that would annoy me and I wouldn't expect from a car approaching six figures.
So don't buy a Tesla yet.
Edit: Approaching six figures? Where I live, a Tesla Model S costs about $48,000. That's hardly approaching six figures.