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Fair point, though I'd suggest that it's not just general/utilitarian/language support areas like lenses where rapid evolution happens, but also quite a few of the practical, real world things like dealing with comms protocols or user interfaces. This is true to some extent for every mainstream language I know as well, but I think perhaps because Haskell's ecosystem isn't as large and there aren't as many (or sometimes any) ready-made alternatives, you feel the effect more when you run into it. For better or worse, I think this rapid evolution does lend some weight to claims that Haskell isn't ready for use on most mainstream projects yet and to the idea that it's more of an academic's or theoretician's language, even if a few such people happen to work in industrial software development rather than in research now.

I suppose it's a similar situation to what we see in web development. There are always people who want to push the envelope with the latest HTML7/CSS5/SomethingScript technologies, and it's helpful for advancing the state of the art for some people to do that. At the same time, if you're trying to build real web sites for paying clients, what you really need is solid foundations that are as standardised and portable as possible.



"general/utilitarian/language support areas like lenses where rapid evolution happens"

Oh, no question. It just was an example I had off the top of my head of somewhere there has been a lot of instability recently.

"For better or worse, I think this rapid evolution does lend some weight to claims that Haskell isn't ready for use on most mainstream projects yet and to the idea that it's more of an academic's or theoretician's language, even if a few such people happen to work in industrial software development rather than in research now."

To an extent, but I'm not sure I accept the dichotomy. The great thing about Haskell over HTML7/CSS5/SomethingScript is that the people doing experimental stuff are doing it in the same language you're working in, and it will bleed directly back into "things that are stable enough to use" as they get stable. The thing that Haskell-in-industry has over academia is that those experimental innovations scratch itches found by people working in industry. The presence of Haskell in academia means those industrial innovators have more things to reach for. Where it works, it works very well. Because the Haskell community is small, we don't have the large mass of stable libraries that something like Python has, but how much that matters depends both on how stable you need things and on what you need in the first place.

"At the same time, if you're trying to build real web sites for paying clients, what you really need is solid foundations that are as standardised and portable as possible."

Absolutely. If you need things stable, stick to stable packages. There are efforts (stackage, Haskell Platform) toward making this easy. If you need things stable, and you have needs that stable libraries don't meet, and it doesn't make sense for you to get involved in maintaining less stable libraries, then Haskell is probably not a good fit for your project.




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