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I wonder what that means for the culture of tipping. A real side effect of this will probably be restaurant prices going up (no idea of the amount), and that might make people less likely to tip. There's also a psychological effect that not tipping or tipping less doesn't feel as bad now that the workers are getting a real wage on top of tips.

I wonder if this will be the end of tipping. That seems simpler than trying to remember how much to tip is normal where based on laws like this.



It means nothing. Tipping is a show of status, and culturally, that is not going away. Eating out will just cost more.

See CA/OR/WA. Nation’s highest minimum wages, including no special tipped min wage, but most people still tip for waited food service.

It actually has gone the opposite way. In my lifetime, the “standard” tip went from 15% to 20% somehow.


I don't see why it would effect tipping at all. Instead of people saying, "wait staff makes less than minimum wage, so don't eat out unless you plan to tip", they will now say "wait staff makes only minimum wage...".


Ah, Californian checking in here. In both CA and NV (states I'm familiar with), tipped employees always get the full minimum wage on their check (none of that 'credit' nonsense).

You're still expected to tip.. but you're not going to ruin someone's day tipping $2 at dennys when you're by yourself. Or the usual 15% (which at Dennys is probably $2 anyway lol). (I'm sure people will disagree, but YMMV)

As for price increases: Yea, whenever the minimum wage goes up, some places will use it as an excuse to raise their prices. The actual price does not necessarily correlate with the amount the businesses are trying to raise their prices lol. It's kinda funny to watch that because some franchise owners like McDonalds and Subway have raised their prices so much that their prices are higher than a restaurant or a higher end place like Carls Jr or Five Guys lol.


> I wonder if this will be the end of tipping.

We can but hope.

I've already eliminated a huge portion of my tipping, because I'm actively angry about those tip prompts and that everyone and their dog is actively asking for tips these days.

This practice needs to be killed with fire.


We went through the same transition here in 2022. With actual restaurant data in hand, comparing August 2019 (in an effort to try and avoid any skew COVID might have created) and August 2023 recorded tips, I see no effective change. 2023 saw a nominally higher tip payout per hour, but in line with the rate of inflation.

Tipping certainly hasn't come to an end. That much is for sure.


It will mean nothing. Cities/states that have $15+ non tipped minimum wage are also ones that have the highest expectation for tips.


If you go to some fancy downtown restaurant yea of course haha. But if you are just going to dennys or ihop or red lobster or something? nah just the usual. I mean.. if it's an expensive place, 15% is still going to be a fair amount of money haha.


> that might make people less likely to tip

At least in California, I still tip my usual 15 to 25%.


If waitstaff make the federal minimum wage, they would only be making around 10 dollars (probably less) an hour less than back of the house in my area. Back of house is by far the worse job, so I'd probably start flat tipping 5 - 10 dollars per visit rather than a percentage to bring them to parity with boh.


> I'd probably start flat tipping 5 - 10 dollars per visit rather than a percentage

I hear you. All I'm saying is that based on the real example of California, most people don't do this. (And most servers don't expect it.)




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